Kara Thrace's parents

[scotland31282]

Ok it is clear that there will be characters from Battelstar in Capric at a young age. but i recon that Kara's parents will play a significant role in the seasons to come regarding the paintings and music also to shed some light on the starbuck dissapering in the season finally of battlestar

Also is the gray stones house Gaius Baltar's ??

[The Bandsaw Vigilante]

As much as some people might want every single little element from BSG to connect and recur somehow on Caprica, the sad truth is that it ultimately simply becomes gratuitous and incestuous to work in such connections, no matter how "vital" they might seem to a particular person.

Starbuck's mother is one such example -- she was an unimportant, faceless, ground-pounding footsoldier at some point during the Cylon War who happened to see a little bit of action on some planet, and won a medal in the process. Now, the question to ask here is, does this have anything directly to do with the core story of Daniel Graystone, Joseph Adama, and their families at this particular point in the timeline?

Not really, and frankly I highly doubt we'll ever see Socrata Thrace even referenced...her brief moment of glory is at least seven years away. Dreilide Thrace, we might hear about his music at some point, but that's probably the extent to which there'll be any type of real crossover in that area.

Again, the producers have to carefully pick and choose what little BSG bits/characters they're going to give "callbacks" to, and what they're not -- and some things simply don't dovetail organically enough to make it justifiable.

[scotland31282]

very well put mate and thanks for such an in depth reply.you clearly have bean doing more thinking on the subject matter than me lol. the only reason i posted this was as far as i can remember it is one of the only side stores form BSG that is relevant to the whole religious/mythical/prophecies side of BSG

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

What Bandsaw Vigilante said: there's no reason to really tie those elements into this story. This story is about the creation of the Cylons, not about Starbuck's "Destiny," which comes into play much later down the story line.

And, no, the Graystones do not occupy Baltar's house. Baltar's house has a different floor plan—not to mention the fact that it was renovated with by a Cylon shockwave. ;-)

[bradtem]

It will also be hard to include many characters. We're talking 60 years between Caprica and Daybreak. Adama is 10 in Caprica, 70 in BSG. So only the oldest characters from BSG can appear in Caprica, and only as kids. Kara is not that old so even her parents would be kids. Nobody else's parents got talked about, except Joseph.

With the exception of the head characters and the god.

Now, in *theory* the Final Five are alive and on a slower than light ship heading for the colonies so they are there, you could even throw in a scene with them. But to bring them to the colonies would make no sense and have to contradict the story of No Exit. It's _technically_ possible in that somebody could use a hyperspace jump ship to go to the Final Five ship, but it contradicts what we have seen.

Of course, they could retcon the other way, in that Zoe, who has become Cylon, and anybody else who becomes Cylon, is sort of a character of BSG, though we never saw any evidence of Zoe's or Tamara's memories among the Cylons.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Well, they haven't been able to "clone" Zoe-A yet.

Also, we have to consider that there was at least one separatist faction from the Colonial Cylons: the Guardians. It's quite possible that there were other schisms as well that we don't know about, and that Zoe-A and Tamara-A may be part of that.

And if you believe the Final Five comics as canon, then there were other Cylons not engaged in the war effort against the Colonials, since some of them went to Kobol to meet up with the Five.

[The Bandsaw Vigilante]

Originally Posted by Joe Beaudoin Jr.

Well, they haven't been able to "clone" Zoe-A yet.

Also, we have to consider that there was at least one separatist faction from the Colonial Cylons: the Guardians. It's quite possible that there were other schisms as well that we don't know about, and that Zoe-A and Tamara-A may be part of that.

Yeah, I've always wondered myself about to what extent the Guardians were either integrated (or not) into the main Cylon hierarchy, apart from being near-legendary by the time the second war rolls around. Would they have been considered "traitors" by Cavil's forces, had he actually encountered them, or something else entirely?

Originally Posted by Joe Beaudoin Jr.

And if you believe the Final Five comics as canon, then there were other Cylons not engaged in the war effort against the Colonials, since some of them went to Kobol to meet up with the Five.

When reading that series, I always pretty much interpreted the Kobol-scenes to mean that the Five were intercepted by an advance Colonial Cylon force, performing some type of deep-range recon during the war (scouting for resources, maybe), and who somehow came across humanity's ancient homeworld in the process.

From the TV series, we saw that they were already aware of its existence in some fashion...plus, in those 40-some-odd years between the wars, they undoubtedly did a helluva lot more exploring past the Red Line than humanity itself did.

[Luth]

what i wonder is if they will show the first cylon war in the Caprica series,seeing as we saw some flashbacks of it in Battlestar,or am I just asking a really stupid question here?
Wasnt Kara's mother mentally unstable? In The Farm you here Kara and the cylon talk about how her mother abused her.Im wondering how she will be portrayed in Caprica then.

[SD70MAC]

I'm thinking Caprica will end right as the first Cylon War starts, then they can do another spinoff that focuses on the war itself.

[The Bandsaw Vigilante]

During the Paley Festival a couple of weeks ago, Ron Moore mentioned that the producers have six different potential "organic endpoints" in mind that they're considering for Caprica's conclusion, each one "a landmark event within the timeline between the current present on the show through to the events of the BSG miniseries."

http://galacticasitrep.blogspot.com/...h-caprica.html

The outbreak of the First Cylon War would undoubtedly be one of those.

[SD70MAC]

Six endpoints, huh? Hmm, speculation, as to what they might be, in no particular order...

1. Cylon War begins. Duh!
2. Willie Adama joins the military.
3. Construction/launch of the Galactica.
4. Appearance of angels.
5. Construction of the First Hybrid.
6. Final Five's arrival.

[Neakal]

Some of those endings could be tied onto each other.

What I am wondering is whether the First Hybrid being Daniel Greystone is still canon. That would be an interesting way to go.

[ShadowEnigma]

Originally Posted by Neakal

Some of those endings could be tied onto each other.

What I am wondering is whether the First Hybrid being Daniel Greystone is still canon. That would be an interesting way to go.

Still canon? I think I missed when it was canon lol! When did that come out?

[hellkiller1234]

Originally Posted by Neakal

Some of those endings could be tied onto each other.

What I am wondering is whether the First Hybrid being Daniel Greystone is still canon. That would be an interesting way to go.

Maybe.... Daniel was number 7. And Cavil was one.

[ShadowEnigma]

Originally Posted by hellkiller1234

Maybe.... Daniel was number 7. And Cavil was one.

Daniel Greystone can only be Number 7 (Named Daniel) if the final five has already shown up and created them. And in BSG they stated that they didn't make it there until after the war broke out. So I doubt Greystone is model 7.