Season 4: Revelations - 6/13/08

[Shane]

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[redwards95]

This is the first time we've seen Tyrol in an episode since he took Hera away from Athena right before she shot Natalie 3 weeks ago isn't it? One thing I dislike about this season is the way they are having long gaps between character appearances and leaving us hanging after significant events (see also: Gaeta).

Based on spoilers it appears we

will see Earth but the identity of the final cylon won't be revealed and the mystery of what happened to Starbuck won't be explained although her viper will be instrumental in reaching Earth. It looks like D'anna will reveal that only 4 of the final five are in the fleet. Is the fifth dead? On Earth already? On the basestar or elsewhere in the Galaxy? I'm a little disappointed that we've gone through so much build up these past 10 episodes and yet are no closer to learning the truth behind the mysteries that marked the beginning of this season. Hell we haven't even really been given a solid clue to who is the final cylon or whether Starbuck is a cylon, an angel, or never died in the first place.

[Washi]

http://www.cinemablend.com/televisio...ons-10800.html

Preview clip (1min)

[afleaah]

Originally Posted by redwards95

This is the first time we've seen Tyrol in an episode since he took Hera away from Athena right before she shot Natalie 3 weeks ago isn't it? One thing I dislike about this season is the way they are having long gaps between character appearances and leaving us hanging after significant events (see also: Gaeta).

for real...

[Shane]

Poll added.

[redwards95]

I watched the 9am ET preview. The spoilers on the web were completely accurate. The episode was great on the first viewing which was a relief after the initial letdown of the previous 2 weeks. I voted "very good."

Earth is a nuclear wasteland. It seems unlikely the fleet and the rebel cylons will stay there long. Maybe they will find clues that point them in the direction where Earth refugees left to a new homeworld (New Earth?). However, I'd be inclined to guess they will be going back to Kobol. That's the meaning of the vision of the opera house and there in fact will be a scene at the very end of the series with all of the final five, Hera, Baltar, and Caprica in the opera house.

As for the final cylon, if D'anna is to be believed, we can now exclude virtually every popular candidate. It appears the final cylon is in fact a dead character, a character we've never seen before, or a character that was left behind in the colonies or somewhere else the fleet stopped.

[redwards95]

Now that I've praised the episode, here were a few quibbles:

- the cylons never asked what happened to Natalie
- Athena was released from the brig so she could help in the planning of the raid on the basestar then apparently never was put back there
- even the other cylons don't really press D'anna on why she says there are only 4 of the final five in the fleet. wouldn't this be one of the first things Torry would want to discuss when she got over to the basestar?
- it's not really clear who Admiral Adama is crying about when he is talking about all the people he sent to die
- I thought Starbuck said she would shoot Anders if she found out he was a cylon?
- shouldn't the fleet have tried to hail Earth before landing and wouldn't the lack of a response have tipped them off that something was wrong?
- why does Lee so readily agree to D'anna's request to let the final five leave Galactica
- Baltar and Roslin seem to have totally forgotten about finding out the meaning of the vision of the opera house
- at the end on Earth, we see Caprica-6 has been released from the brig and embraces Tigh on the beach. was she included in Lee's amnesty?
- did Roslin re-assume the Presidency after her conversation with Lee?
- I wonder if Starbuck and Lee will travel to the Temple of Aurora in the first episode of season 4.5
- is the colonial transponder Starbuck's viper recognized coming from

her crashed original viper as has been rumored

? Why didn't everybody fly down to the source of the transponder signal in the first place instead of the beach?

[GrayAnderson]

Earth is a nuclear wasteland. I knew something was up when the "earth shots" didn't show any lights, but there -were- two options: Nuclear war or other kind of self-destruction on the one hand (perhaps associated with an exodus) and arrival in ancient history on the other hand (perhaps even associated with the 13th colony having failed/not made it/not existed).

Honestly, I like it, but it does have the feeling of a slight letdown.

Other than that, I rather did like the episode. Very enjoyable...now, I just wish they'd give us the final cylon sooner rather than later.

[The Nubs]

One of the best episodes of the series in my opinion. Still want to know who the 5th is. If it is a dead character I would lean towards Zak.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Originally Posted by redwards95

Now that I've praised the episode, here were a few quibbles:

- the cylons never asked what happened to Natalie

The Hybrid told them what happened to Natalie in "The Hub".

Originally Posted by redwards95

- Athena was released from the brig so she could help in the planning of the raid on the basestar then apparently never was put back there

Bleh. Minor detail, really...

Originally Posted by redwards95

- even the other cylons don't really press D'anna on why she says there are only 4 of the final five in the fleet. wouldn't this be one of the first things Torry would want to discuss when she got over to the basestar?

I do agree that the Last Cylon was ignored in this episode.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- it's not really clear who Admiral Adama is crying about when he is talking about all the people he sent to die

He thinks he's been played. His whole world is falling apart—he's known Tigh for 30 years and he's a skin job! How does that happen? Like us, he doesn't know what to make of it.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- I thought Starbuck said she would shoot Anders if she found out he was a cylon?

Well, the marines were there. Also, Starbuck has a tendency to say things and not follow thorough with them.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- shouldn't the fleet have tried to hail Earth before landing and wouldn't the lack of a response have tipped them off that something was wrong?

They may have. They may have not.

For all they know, Earth was merely an abandoned paradise. Instead, all they found was radioactive ruins.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- why does Lee so readily agree to D'anna's request to let the final five leave Galactica

Maybe Lee's the Fifth. :P

Seriously, I don't have any thoughts on that one. However, Lee seems willing to avoid a bloodbath at any costs, and is the one who brokered this Human and Cylon rebel alliance.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- Baltar and Roslin seem to have totally forgotten about finding out the meaning of the vision of the opera house

Finding Earth and about the Five will sidetrack ya.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- at the end on Earth, we see Caprica-6 has been released from the brig and embraces Tigh on the beach. was she included in Lee's amnesty?

Probably as good will, yes.

Originally Posted by redwards95

did Roslin re-assume the Presidency after her conversation with Lee?

Obviously not, since Roslin allows him to run the show still.

Originally Posted by redwards95

- I wonder if Starbuck and Lee will travel to the Temple of Aurora in the first episode of season 4.5

Maybe they are at the Temple?

Originally Posted by redwards95

is the colonial transponder Starbuck's viper recognized coming from

her crashed original viper as has been rumored

? Why didn't everybody fly down to the source of the transponder signal in the first place instead of the beach?

If it was a trap, then it would be foolhardy to just walk right on up to it.

Also, the episode made it specifically clear that no one else in the Fleet could pick up the signal, but yet Starbuck's pristine viper was able to. All the more reason to be cautious.

[Titan]

Incredible episode all around. Near the end, when it seemed as though everything was finally going right - I *knew* there was a twist coming. Can't have a 6 to 9 month hiatus begin on a happy ending, after all.

[Kristiger]

I watched it. Amazing episode, I can't wait for the final 10 episodes. SciFi, hurry up! It may be the best episode of the series, even better than '33'. Kudos all around, especially to Michael Hogan, and Aaron Douglas in an almost silent role.

[Osprey]

"Honestly, I like it, but it does have the feeling of a slight letdown."
um, i think that was the POINT!
:-)

d'anna's "head fake" from last week was NOTHING compared to this!
:-)

annnnd, we get punked TWICE with the whole misdirection re: the 5th cylon ...

rdm is playin' wit us -- but i guess we like it that way!
:-)

/fwiw, yes it ties up the 1st half arcs & yes it gives us [obviously] something to look forward to for the series end, but i voted "good" only, 'cause, well, imo it was ~24 min. worth of story that dragged through to the 45 min. ep. length ...

[Osprey]

" *knew* there was a twist coming"

yeah, for over a minute i'm like -- c'mon, show me the punchline!


/fwiw, didn't several posters call this precise scenario re: earth in one of our "speculation" threads? very good job folks!

[J03y]

Well, I absolutely loved this episode. I can't wait to find out what the 'mystery' of Earth is. So excited!