Plot Revealed

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

So the initial plot has been revealed by E! Online (http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=e1304fb7-b29d-4d3e-9873-d2230fcfc998). Here it is...
The Graystones include father Daniel, a computer genius; mother Amanda, a brilliant surgeon and unfaithful wife; and their daughter, Zoe, who is martyred to her boyfriend's religious fanaticism—but not before she installs the rudimentary elements of her personality and DNA into a machine, creating a digital twin of herself, Zoe-A.


After the human Zoe's death, Daniel uses these raw materials, some stolen technology and his own grief to cobble together "a robotic version of his dead daughter." This robot version, known as Zoe-R, is a Cylonic Eve, the first of her kind. (Dun-dun-dun!)


And in this corner, ladies and gentlemen, meet Grandpapadama! As Adm. Bill Adama once told us, his father, Joseph, was a great attorney of his day, fighting for the civil rights of the Twelve Colonies' downtrodden and marginalized. But that's not his whole story: Joseph Adama's wife and daughter were also killed in that same suicide bombing that took Zoe Graystone's life.


The two fathers, Daniel Graystone and Joseph Adama, work together on replicating their children in cyborg form, but "Joseph is ethically appalled by the robot version of his dead [daughter], Tamara, and repents his actions." Those Adamas are all hardass conscience, aren't they?
Still, the one happy result of the Adama family tragedy is that Joseph and his young son, the 9-year-old Bill, grow closer to each other, and Joseph begins to explain their family's story to his sad, somber child. But will their bond prepare them for the havoc soon to be wreaked by the rise of the Cylon nation?


Discuss, groan, moan, cheer...

[Shane]

Tamara.. my sisters's name. Anyway.. good plot. This show will differently be a much lighter in terms of the filming.

[DrWho42]

I must admit that I am wary... I think I'd like the fleshing out of Colonial society, but I feel like the story could go either way depending on how it's handled.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

I'm "cautiously optimistic", whatever that means. :lol: Ron Moore and Eick mentioned many things about the Miniseries/Re-imagined Series that struck me as trite and cliched, which was why I was initially against the Re-imagined Series myself... (That and all remakes/reboots suck. Except BSG.)

But I think this might be their plan: don't get people's hopes up too much. Make it sound a bit corny... because, lets face it, hyping up a "prequel" spin-off tends to back fire. Look at Star Wars... the prequels were overhyped pieces of s***e that under delivered everything, except a sensory-overload when it comes to special effects. Hell, look at Enterprise... Braggart (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Brannon_Braga) and Boreman (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Rick_Berman) lite said that they would go back to Trek's roots on that one... and needless to say, it exemplified everything that was wrong with the franchise. (Except when Manny Coto came aboard, but by then it was too late.)

Frankly, it's really too soon to tell how "Caprica" will be, since we don't have anything really definite on it.

[OrionFour]

All true. It's just that the way this series is being described right now - I'm not all too excited about it. I can just see the word "Caprica" in cursive in the opening titles and it just doesn't feel right. But I don't want to jump to any conclusions just yet, it's far too early for that.

You know I hesitate to mention this, at the risk of sounding dumb, but is it wholly impossible that this is all just an ellaborate ruse to keep secret a much more exciting project? It sounds like something those two might try.

[1Nivek1]

But I think this might be their plan: don't get people's hopes up too much. Make it sound a bit corny...

Hmmm....

mother Amanda, a brilliant surgeon and unfaithful wife; and their daughter, Zoe, who is martyred to her boyfriend's religious fanaticism—but not before she installs the rudimentary elements of her personality and DNA into a machine, creating a digital twin of herself, Zoe-A.

A bit?

I can just see the word "Caprica" in cursive in the opening titles
:p
Slowly written out w/ voice-over:
Like sands through the hour-glass...so are the days of our pensions....

General groan here. But, then again, I think if BSG went for another season, I'd get off the ship. I've about had enough.

They had better race to the first Cylon War before everyone gets off ship if you ask me though. Don't see how with Billy at 9 years.


----On a Side Note (off-topic)
Hell, look at Enterprise... Braggart (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Brannon_Braga) and Boreman (http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Rick_Berman) lite said that they would go back to Trek's roots on that one... and needless to say, it exemplified everything that was wrong with the franchise.

I was a TNG fan, but that's it. Even the old Star Trek I thought was ridiculously dumb. DS9 I think made the huge mistake of having the setting as a stationary object. Voyager -> Captian Janeway = ruin. BUT, Enterprise !? That is seriously some of the most cheey, bad-written sh*t that I have EVER seen. I literally stop on scifi when the opening song comes on because it makes me laugh hysterically. Literally, the only thing I can compare that series to is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgX-hiQdfFw

The sad thing, though (at least what I've always thought, anyway), is that they should've had success. The Star Trek "world" is so vast. All you need is decent character ideas/development and writers who aren't hacks. But, amazingly, no one can seem to get that done.

Anywho, just had to comment on the slow, painful degredation of TNG that led us to Enterprise.

[james968]

Oh god that youtube video was painful! My eyes are still burning. .......

Interesting, the plot does add some possible ideas on the story and why the original cylon war happened. If a human's memory/personality was put into a robot, would the new individual have rights? If not, I could certainly understand why they would be pissed.

Also would the Transferred Cylons be the (rumored) Cylon Gods. The fists ones to have the concept of not simply following the humans, the first to be sentient.

Does this mean some of the FF are actually Adama's sister and mother?????

[Spencerian]

The rights issues will dominate this series. Based on what's been revealed (assuming its correct), the first laborers aren't the Cylons we know by definition. They may not be quite sentient. But as the Graystones tinker, the Cylons soon get that spark, a'la SkyNet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28Terminator%29). It's that moment of epiphany I remember in a Far Side cartoon where a cow in a pasture raises her head and says, "Hey! This is grass! We're all eating grass!"

That's a sign of revolution. We know it will be.

Since the Re-imagined Series hadn't delved much into the details of Bill Adama's childhood and family aside from Joseph, this could be interesting. Exploring the Colonial worlds, their prejudices and customs...yes, very interesting.

There is a risk of the series going all 1st season DS9 (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/DS9), however...bolding going nowhere except to Boresville. The space travel element wasn't the key to the Re-imagined Series, however, so if they just "ground" the stories to buildings and not ships, it should still play well if similarly written to the current show.

[OrionFour]

Just noticed something interesting: In the original Greek, the word zoe means "eternal life". In fact, there are numerous Bible references to the word zoe as meaning just that.

[UnRep]

Hang on. William Adama is nine years old in this series? And the character Zoe is going to be the first Cylon. So when exactly is it supposed to be set?

If the first Cylon war had ended forty years ago as said at the start of the MiniSeries and the war lasted for twelve and a half years. So the war had to start arounf 53 years ago.

Add to that a nine year old William Adama, that means old Bill's at least 61 at the start of the Miniseries. This doesn't really give much time for the creation of the Cylons and to allow things to play out given the current timeline.

Not really allowing much time for the years of slavery which was the apparent cause of the Cylon war is there?

[Osprey]

what if bill is, say, 65 when the miniseries took place?

jmo, but surely it won't take the cylons very long at all for them to realize "hey, why are we slaves to them?!"

/analogy -- fwiw -- in T3 it takes the skynet mainframe all of ~20 seconds to become self-aware -- so even if it takes the toasters, say, a year, there's surely enough wiggle room in the plot for that timeframe to take place ...

[Starstruck]

Well, if the first Cylon is a replica of Bill's sister, doesn't that mean she would need to be close to Bill's age in current BSG time, if she has not been killed? Like, oh say, Laura Roslin's age? Creepy idea, considering how romantic they've become of late.

[Starstruck]

Nevermind me, I read too fast. Zoe would have to be older than Adama, so unless the cylons age really slowly or not at all, couldn't be anyone on BSG.

[Asiriya]

It sounds terrible, it sounds like it will be the epitomy of why most sci-fi is hated. I love the idea of it just being a cover up for the real thing, but I think that it would a) be very dangerous as it would turn off the casual viewer, and b) be unlikely given the reported reluctance of sci-fi to fund a new season of BSG.
Seriously, the executives are so incredibly dumb, funding all the terrible little miniseries they do, and abandoning the original work. Ah well, we'll have to see.

[OldManRivers]

Sounds good and I look forward to it.

[mdwturner]

It sounds terrible, it sounds like it will be the epitomy of why most sci-fi is hated. I love the idea of it just being a cover up for the real thing, but I think that it would a) be very dangerous as it would turn off the casual viewer, and b) be unlikely given the reported reluctance of sci-fi to fund a new season of BSG.
Seriously, the executives are so incredibly dumb, funding all the terrible little miniseries they do, and abandoning the original work. Ah well, we'll have to see.

Unfortunately, I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm anticipating this series will be even more addictive than BSG and, frankly, I don't need another reason to watch television. Think Blade Runner, or a moody BBC mystery, not Dallas drivel. Here's hoping it will suck. But, I'm already hooked ... sigh. And the more pressing question ... who will they cast as Zoe, and will she appear in BSG?

[1Nivek1]

Oh god that youtube video was painful! My eyes are still burning. .......

Interesting, the plot does add some possible ideas on the story and why the original cylon war happened.

You are exactly right.....The cylon's were simply just trying to eliminate David Hasselhoff.

1 (Don't Hassle the Hoff) Nivek 1

[Asiriya]

Unfortunately, I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm anticipating this series will be even more addictive than BSG and, frankly, I don't need another reason to watch television. Think Blade Runner, or a moody BBC mystery, not Dallas drivel. Here's hoping it will suck. But, I'm already hooked ... sigh. And the more pressing question ... who will they cast as Zoe, and will she appear in BSG?
You know, I woke up thinking about it the other day; if they can do it right, and have it as really despairing, with some great actors showing how much the father just wanted his daughter back, and ends up creating a race that gets enslaved and ultimately leads to the destruction of the original race, it could be spectacular, as long as they don't mess it up, which they more than likely will *sighs*