It's ahhhlive! (Otherwise known as "Caprica" being greenlit final-frakking-ly!)

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

It's official, the two-hour pilot for "Caprica (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Caprica_%28series%29)" has been green-lit and production will begin this spring.

Time to break out the ambrosia and strippers. :thumbsup:

[aylinn]

Hurray!!!! More Sixes :D Gotta drink for that.

[ShadowEnigma]

Really? That's cool. I didn't realize it was still in the running to be green lighted. I'm quite curious to see the pilot.

[iheartthesystem]

Cool, I'm kinda looking forward to this because I really want some more backstory on the cylons.

[Neakal]

I still feel iffy about that one : /

While I would love to see the backstory and the life in the Colonies as well as specific storylines such as the fate of the Blackstone family and Socrata Thrace's vision (As I said somewhere else, I always took Kara's "Will you let go of that dream of yours" (Maelstrom) comment literally, this is, Socrata did act on a dream/vision rather than a hunch), the way the series was initially pitched (family drama rather than scifi battles) didn't appeal to me. Obviously a series in BSG universe should include the legal and moral issues regarding Cylons but the impression the series is giving me now is that that is the main focus which I feel unsure about.

[ShadowEnigma]

That's why I am so curious to see the pilot. The idea for the show sounds pretty iffy to me, but with how well they have done with BSG, I'm curious to see what they are going to try and do with this idea. Theory and Reality have a way of being totally frakking different. So I will wait to see what the reality of the show actually will be.

[Shane]

Well.. I think it will be interesting. It be like any other show we seen with drama, romance. And the fact that it might be lighter will be a sharp contract to BSG now. :)

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Personally, I think it would be cool and interesting if "Caprica" was told by William Adama's point of view. Perhaps he was writing (or talking to Athena about it) during that one year in orbit of New Craprica.

Oh, and SCI FI Channel has authorized us to publish the full press release. It's located here (http://www.battlestarpegasus.com/wiki/Caprica_Press_Release), with information to follow on BSG Wiki's Caprica (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Caprica_%28series%29) article.

[The Nubs]

I for one would like to see it be it's own seperate entity and not try to answer every question of how things came to be in BSG as we know it today. However, a few things would be nice to throw in some times. I just don't want to see Star Wars episode 1,2,3 type deal come out of this. Let it be it's own stories.

[caprica_six]

Hurray!!!! More Sixes :D Gotta drink for that.
YEY for the Sixes!

[iheartthesystem]

I have to admit that I also have mixed feelings about Caprica now. While I defnitely want to see more on the cylon backstory and how life on the colonies was, I'm not so sure about the family drama aspect of it all. But I guess I'll to wait and see, it could still end up being a totally great series after all.

[Spencerian]

Sounds good. RDM and pals will be able to pull this off. There's plenty of good drama precedents. We shouldn't see any humanoid Cylons, however...that's the future. We'll have a lot of old Centurions talking and angry and lamenting, I think.

Caprica will experience the tensions from the Irish/American and black slavery prejudices in America, with more conflicts taken from the real world for good measure.

I predict the Greystones are people who never realized that being able to do something doesn't mean they should. It'll likely be that group that perpetuates the nature of Cylons as mere "Toasters."

[ShadowEnigma]

I for one would like to see it be it's own seperate entity and not try to answer every question of how things came to be in BSG as we know it today. However, a few things would be nice to throw in some times. I just don't want to see Star Wars episode 1,2,3 type deal come out of this. Let it be it's own stories.

I agree completely, and I'm not too worried about them doing that. It seems like they have been quite good about staying away from most sci-fi show traps. I think they will find a good mixture of new and old stories.


Caprica will experience the tensions from the Irish/American and black slavery prejudices in America, with more conflicts taken from the real world for good measure.

I predict the Greystones are people who never realized that being able to do something doesn't mean they should. It'll likely be that group that perpetuates the nature of Cylons as mere "Toasters."

Caprica will definitely give the writers something that they definitely love, story lines to make political statements/opinions on society today. That is something that I have loved through out the show, their ability to make the show so realistic to human society. I swear if a professor was bold enough, they could make a politics class based off battlestar.

[EverlastingGaze]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aylinn http://battlestarforum.com/images/battlestar/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://battlestarforum.com/showthread.php?p=6644#post6644)
Hurray!!!! More Sixes :D Gotta drink for that.

No sixes, they won't have been created yet...I'm looking forward to this though I'm not expecting it anytime soon.

[TitanimRex]

No sixes, they won't have been created yet...I'm looking forward to this though I'm not expecting it anytime soon.

Its all happened before and it will happen again - don't give up on those sixes

[eboe]

my main hope is that the show advances far enough to maybe make it into and past the first cylon war and to the cylon's development of the humanoids. I know some people don't want it to tie into the current series, I think that is inevitable as it exists in the same universe. I for one would like to have it all filled in. I think it could take you all the way up to the attacks on the 12 colonies.

[ShadowEnigma]

I think it might be cool if it got up until the first Cylon War, but definitely no further. I think some things should just be left up to the imagination or speculation.

[toaster_lover]

No sixes, they won't have been created yet...
you sure about that?:lol:

Im looking forward to Caprica and anything else RDM is involved in....

*Whiskey glass tinkling**

[The Nubs]

I think it could take you all the way up to the attacks on the 12 colonies.

Now that would be interesting but doesn't seem like it fits in with what the basics of the show are going to be.

[ShadowEnigma]

my main hope is that the show advances far enough to maybe make it into and past the first cylon war and to the cylon's development of the humanoids. I know some people don't want it to tie into the current series, I think that is inevitable as it exists in the same universe. I for one would like to have it all filled in. I think it could take you all the way up to the attacks on the 12 colonies.

I think you have to be really careful. Especially since the series is being made after BSG. I don't think going up that far would be beneficial to this series or to BSG in general. Some rocks are best left unturned.

[OrionFour]

You know I like the idea of the franchise having life after BSG, but I have to admit, I'm a little skeptical about Caprica. I don't even remember where this comes from anymore, but I remember someone official making the comment that this was going to be more like a "soap opera". I think they were probably making an exaggerated claim, simply trying to suggest that the show would be more drama-oriented, but the word still sticks in my mind. I think BSG works well because of the harmonious synergy between the drama and the action, and to have a show leen one way rather than both seems to me to be a boring prospect. Call me shallow, but a part of me watches BSG to see a good space battle every now and then.
My only hope for Caprica is that the series eventually focuses on the war (which it is supposed to if it makes it that far), and the creation of the first twelve battlestars, and manages to successfully weave that in with the drama.
What I would like to see is a future series, maybe 30 years after the fleet finds Earth, where the Colonials return to the Colonies after a rebuild and "kick the Cylons the frak out of our homes".

[ShadowEnigma]

What I would like to see is a future series, maybe 30 years after the fleet finds Earth, where the Colonials return to the Colonies after a rebuild and "kick the Cylons the frak out of our homes".

Didn't the Cylons leave the colonies? I forget which episode, I would quote it if I remembered. I thought one of the cylons plain out told them that they left, and that taking the colonies was a mistake. I think it was at the end of Season 2, when Kara returned with Anders and his group.

[OrionFour]

Didn't the Cylons leave the colonies? I forget which episode, I would quote it if I remembered. I thought one of the cylons plain out told them that they left, and that taking the colonies was a mistake. I think it was at the end of Season 2, when Kara returned with Anders and his group.

That's what they want you to think. :smilewink:

[JDS]

I think maybe we shouldn't be as worried as you are.

Think about this for a minute...it's a Sci Fi channel production. SciFi produces a lot of garbage, but at least they must know that they don't have any soap opera watchers in their audience, right? I simply don't see them pushing a show in a direction where they wouldn't have anybody to watch it.

[unfalln]

Remember also guys that Tigh is a cylon and that he would probably be close to his teenage years around the time of "Caprica". I know that everyone is assuming that the humanoid cylons are all created after the first war and that Tigh was built into an old man to start with, but I'm not leaving anything to chance. Given that there is an undercurrent of religious fanaticism being written into the casting call, it's possible that at least the final five are either pre-Zoe genetic experiments or possibly bionic-man/total-recall style implanted (or even both!).

[bsg-fan]

They have left us on a radioactive Earth where all of them looked very disappointed
and then we have to wait some ten month or more to finally know how it come to
closure. We still don't know who the Fifth Cylon is.

And now we have to see a Caprica series where they don't will tell whom the
Fifth is either cause if they did that would kind of spoil a lot of surprise when
they air the last episodes.

Maybe I am too picky, I didn't like the acting of the actor that played a young
Adama in the Razor episodes. He was not so good at acting was he.

Have they contracted him to do Adama in Caprica too?

I guess they let us wait so long to be sure they have loyal viewers for Caprica?

I guess as a newbie to the forum I would have to present myself somewhere
but I am not good at such. I'm a BSG fan and are not into the other SF series.

I didn't like the DrWho or Men in Black or Special Unit or such.

The 4400 was interesting for a while but I got tired of it.
I guess me is interested in BSG for the moral and psychological
reasons. What if we can make such skinjobs in future. Should
we give them human rights. Would it be ok to fall in love with one?

It is also interesting to follow the fight between polytheists and
monotheists. why is one God to prefer over many?

The other series are childish compared to BSG.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Welcome aboard, bsg-fan! :D

Anyway, Nico Cortez is the actor who played young Adama in "Razor" and the Razor Flashbacks. Since the series is set 51 years before the Fall of the Colonies, Cortez won't be playing Adama. Some other actor will... haven't heard who yet.

[Jonathan]

I'm disappointed because I have been eager for a sequel spin-off, not a prequel. I want to know what happens on Earth down the road. Not what happened on the Colonies to bring us to this point. We already know that story. Man. Hubris. Machine. God. Destruction. It is time to move forward. It is not time to look behind.

[bsg-fan]

do we have any help reading this book?
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F) by Philip K. Dick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick).

some say that the Cylons are inspired by his text about Androids.
That in that book they wonder about their identity too in a similar
way as they do in BSG.

I have no idea if he has the Mormon LDS thing in his texts though.
It could be that the way the Cylons and his Androids are acting?

I am a bit disappointed too. I want to know if it works out between
humans and Cylons. Do they get along and start to trust each other
and so on.

But the "prequel" could be interesting too. We do have such dreamers already now.

Transhumanists dreaming we could download our brain into robots in the future and Feminists who dream about Cyborgs and so on. And the two families wanted to get their dead daughters back in some way too in the Caprica.

Such hopes exists already now so it is interesting but it is muc hharder than to have a BSG type of action with fights and such.

I look most for the psychological interactions but one need a bit of hardware going too. Vipers and Basstars and such to look at. :)

Caprica can't have much of such does it? A lab building Cylons at most?

[Captin Jenkins]

No sixes, they won't have been created yet...
Hey the show is sci-fi. They can always throw in some kind of a time-machine that takes one or more of the sixes back in time. :D

[Captin Jenkins]

I'm disappointed because I have been eager for a sequel spin-off, not a prequel. I want to know what happens on Earth down the road. Not what happened on the Colonies to bring us to this point. We already know that story. Man. Hubris. Machine. God. Destruction. It is time to move forward. It is not time to look behind.
I kind of feel the same way. I mean I am definitely going to watch Caprica, but in general the idea of prequels (for any show or movie) never really interested me. We all know what happens so what's the point of watching it? I'd rather see a sequel series to BSG that takes place after the events of the series finale, like maybe 50 or 100 years later. But then again we don't know how this current series is going to end so maybe there would be no point in a series like that.

[Pnutmaster]

I'm disappointed because I have been eager for a sequel spin-off, not a prequel. I want to know what happens on Earth down the road. Not what happened on the Colonies to bring us to this point. We already know that story. Man. Hubris. Machine. God. Destruction. It is time to move forward. It is not time to look behind.

Ahh, but if "all this has happened before and will happen again", wouldn't a sequel be in itself a regurgitation of Battlestar Galactica :p?

All depends on whether or not the cycle is broken, and judging by the reactions of the actors, I'm starting to lean with the former.

[genji2000]

Ahh, but if "all this has happened before and will happen again", wouldn't a sequel be in itself a regurgitation of Battlestar Galactica :p?

Or to put it another way, wouldn't a sequel be a prequel?

[ranvir]

I kind of feel the same way. I mean I am definitely going to watch Caprica, but in general the idea of prequels (for any show or movie) never really interested me. We all know what happens so what's the point of watching it?

Ah, but to be completely banal: it’s the journey (as opposed to the destination) that matters. I'm actually interested to see how the Cylons were made and how the situation became what it was in BSG. That said, while the soap opera aspect is not off-putting for me, I dunno... The story, at least, as described... Seems to me somewhat... Silly?... I guess is the word.

I can't put my finger on it exactly, but I love the bleak and hopeless darkness of BSG. Humanity is almost extinct and on the run. That atmosphere is very cool and a departure from that will be weird for me. Plus I've kinda built this own tale in my head as to how the Cylons came to be, and I'm afraid that to see it done on screen (departing from my vague imaginings) might de-mistify the origin story. For example, when I saw the somewhat crazy yet certainly prophetic hybrid in Razor, it really made me wonder, and a being like that coming from the story of Zoe Graystone just seems... Odd. I dunno, I can't quite articulate my feelings. Nonetheless I'll watch this comes out and hope for the best!

[bsg-fan]

I got curious on this and tried to find background for the series using google.
So much to wade trough. Three main influences? Mormon faith seems to
have given some of it. And the Blade Runner author gave them the idea on
making Cylons be a bit like his Androids?

Was Glenn Larsen one of the first writers? He is said to be a Mormon so most
likely we took much from his faith. Some say that Gaius Baltar reminds of
Joseph Smith who founded their faith.

I looked up three of the persons that has been involded in BSG writing and
deciding on the story. some like them very much and others are incredibly
critical of them and write they are not good at what they are doing.

so the fact that we like what we see could be due to the actors doing a good
job?

I find many of the main characters very believable. I've seen Grace Park in a short role
she did in Stargate SG-1 and she do a good job in BSG compared to that role in SG-1.

I like the interactions between Roslin and Adama. Works for me.

[Captin Jenkins]

Ah, but to be completely banal: it’s the journey (as opposed to the destination) that matters.
I think both matter. When you already know the destination it takes away from some of the excitement in my opinion. A journey on a TV show, movie, book etc. is much more interesting when you don't already know how the journey is going to end, which again is why the idea of prequels never really interested me.

[genji2000]

I got curious on this and tried to find background for the series using google.
So much to wade trough. Three main influences? Mormon faith seems to
have given some of it. And the Blade Runner author gave them the idea on
making Cylons be a bit like his Androids?

Was Glenn Larsen one of the first writers? He is said to be a Mormon so most
likely we took much from his faith. Some say that Gaius Baltar reminds of
Joseph Smith who founded their faith.

I looked up three of the persons that has been involded in BSG writing and
deciding on the story. some like them very much and others are incredibly
critical of them and write they are not good at what they are doing.

so the fact that we like what we see could be due to the actors doing a good
job?

I find many of the main characters very believable. I've seen Grace Park in a short role
she did in Stargate SG-1 and she do a good job in BSG compared to that role in SG-1.

I like the interactions between Roslin and Adama. Works for me.

Glen Larson masterminded the original series in 1978, so a lot of the basis of the story comes from him. I think the idea of the exodus and the thirteen tribes came from Mormon writing originally, so that carried into the new series in 2003.

I think the fact that some of the people involved in the original 1978 show dislike the new show is not important. It certainly doesn't mean the writing is bad in the new show, it just means they don't like certain aspects of the new show.

So no, it is not always about the actors doing a good job with a bad script.

You can find a lot of information right here on the Battlestar Wiki:
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

[Mercer]

NOOO!! Why cant this show follow some good ol' Catholic teachings? Mess with us we will excommunicate you and burn you!! lol.

[BSGfan-atic]

Whoo hooo! There is an official trailer for "Caprica" on scifi.com, posted today I think (21 or 22 July). It looks good!

[The Dirt]

Whoo hooo! There is an official trailer for "Caprica" on scifi.com, posted today I think (21 or 22 July). It looks good!


How about a link:

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?clip=4⊂=specials (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?clip=4&sub=specials)

[genji2000]

BSGfan-atic posted a thread for the Caprica trailer:
http://www.battlestarforum.com/showthread.php?t=1605

You need to be signed up to the Caprica Season 1 Spoilers group to access it.

[Neakal]

Having seen that trailer, it definitely caught my interest :)

[smelly_feet]

I'm really dissapointed. Looks like Caprica is turning BSG into a ethical debate on human cloning. I was really hoping that the human models were created by the centurions. Thats the impression I got from Razor. It was like humans created the centurions and then the centurions created human form cylons as a weapon. But now it looks like humans cloning humans. Cheesy....

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Well, there's still the question of where the Final Five came from... and the Final Five apparently have been around for a while.

Also, having read the script, I can tell you that the Zoe in the club is not a humanoid, flesh and blood copy, but a computer avatar. (Think virtual reality, something out of Virtuosity...)

[The Dirt]

I think the answer to who created the humanoid Cylons has to do with why the robotic Cylons rebelled. I hope to see that answered... and I hope to see the start of the 1st Cylon War by the end of season 1 or beginning of season 2. If this show is about the beginning of the end of Colonial society, then they have to get into the war and how it started. I think this would be a very interesting approach, even for someone who is watching Caprica without full knowledge or appreciation of BSG. I really think that they're trying to capture the "casual" sci-fi viewer -- which may or may not be a good thing. It depends on how they do it.

[genji2000]

Looks like Caprica is turning BSG into a ethical debate on human cloning. I was really hoping that the human models were created by the centurions... But now it looks like humans cloning humans.

...having read the script, I can tell you that the Zoe in the club is not a humanoid, flesh and blood copy, but a computer avatar. (Think virtual reality, something out of Virtuosity...)

I think the answer to who created the humanoid Cylons has to do with why the robotic Cylons rebelled. I hope to see that answered...

Can I raise a point of order here, chaps? How much of the discussion above should be considered spoiler, and shouldn't it take place in the Caprica Season 1 Spoilers sub-forum?

[Osprey]

well, technicaly, isn't anything caprica-specific a spoiler at this point in time? so yeah, mebbe the chiefs should move the latter portion of the thread ...

[timbo]

I'm really dissapointed. Looks like Caprica is turning BSG into a ethical debate on human cloning. ....

I dont think BSG is being turned into anything, I think it has always been as much about making us think about cloning, the stupidity of a lot our religious symbolism, the nature of war and what it does to societies, etc., as it has been a about a big space adventure. This is what I think has separated it from the rest of the brain numbing crap that is usually turned out. I hope Caprica will continue to carry the torch for intelligent TV. I understand when people say "if I want spiritual instruction I will read a relevent text, or if I want to understand political history I will watch a documentary", but how many of us ever actually do these things?

[Darth Marty]

Excuse the ignorance if maybe my question has been answered before but I havent yet had a chance to scan through the entire forum.

Anyway, question re: Caprica - Will it show the 1st Cylon war? Because that storyline really needs to be done. And done well. I actually quite liked the young Adama so would look forward to seeing him in action along with a young Tigh!! That would be very very interesting!!

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

Right now the pilot only shows the initial creation of the Cylons. Nothing's been said about covering the Cylon War.

[The Dirt]

I don't think that Adama and Tigh meet until after the end of the war. Although, they could show each person's military life individually, Adama didn't actually enter the war until the very end. I would love it if they covered the 1st Cylon war in this series, but from the sound of it they want to avoid the military perspective. Perhaps, we will see something reminiscent of young Cain in one of the Razor flashbacks - the war told from a civilian perspective.

[Osprey]

all indication so far is it will focus on the time within the colonies PRIOR TO the 1st cylon war and instead focus on what the creation of the cylons meant to the colonies, and how the parts were put into place that led to the that horrible conflict ...

/best case -- caprica does well for a few years and we get ANOTHER spinoff "Galatica: The early years" that chronicles the 1st cylon war ...
//i can dream ...

[Neakal]

Yea I can see a successfully-finished Caprica leading to a story about the First Cylon War. Truth be told one of the characters I would be really interested is Socrata and what she exactly experienced to make here so obsessed on the whole destiny. It would also give a perspective on how the Colonies interacted with eachother but I think we will see plenty of that in Caprica already. At least we should.

[The Dirt]

Tell me that this is not a sign of things to come:

Sci Fi Channel Turns to the Dark Side with More Reality Programming

Last week, we told you that the Sci Fi Channel may be considering a name change (http://io9.com/5053760/sci-fi-goes-beyond-in-search-of-new-brand) to reflect its increasingly non-scifi programming. As if to further confirm its abandonment of the genre that (currently) bears its name, Sci Fi is adding three reality shows to its original programming slate. So, instead of new science fiction, we can look forward to cash-hunt game shows and even more paranormal investigation.

This November, Sci Fi will start airing Cha$e, which has been described as a real-life video game crossed with manhunt. Contestants are armed with a backpack, iPhone, compass, and other essential items, placed in Los Angeles, and sent after a cash prize. But along the way, they are stalked by "Hunters," dark-suited professional athletes who capture the contestants and remove them from play.

Estate of Panic, also starting in November, places contestants in a mansion where they will also hunt for cash. But instead of avoiding hunters, they'll have to contend with the house's challenges and make it to the Vault Room. There, they'll be shackled to the floor and surrounded by safety-deposit boxes, one of which contains the key to their restraints. Crossing Jordan's Steve Valentine has signed on to host.

And Sci Fi announced this weekend that it has greenlit RelicQuest, an archeological documentary series. From SCI FI Wire: RelicQuest is an action and adventure series that travels the globe with [documentary filmmaker Bruce] Burgess, who guides the viewer in a first-hand exploration down mysterious roads to uncover objects fabled to hold hidden powers and mystical significance for both ancient and modern cultures.
Traveling to Cairo, Burgess attempts to solve the riddle of who Moses really was and to unravel the true story of what happened on Mount Sinai. Burgess will also go to the ruins of Montsegur Castle to investigate the Holy Grail of the Cathars, a small cup that was said to have enormous healing and spiritual powers. Other journeys will take viewers to Amman, Jordan, on the trail of the Armageddon Priscillian Codex, a sought-after document said to be a prophecy for the alleged "end times."
The introduction of these shows come on the heels of Sci Fi's summer success (http://io9.com/5045366/everyone-loves-scifi) with shows like Ghost Hunters International and Scare Tactics. But the real question is: are we being denied a full season of Caprica in favor of more reality programming?

http://io9.com/5056091/sci-fi-channel-turns-to-the-dark-side-with-more-reality-programming

[genji2000]

See the News Group (http://www.battlestarforum.com/group.php?groupid=13&gmid=142#gmessage142) for info

Caprica greenlit to series.

Aiming to air early 2010. Hopefully the pilot will be broadcast earlier (maybe before Xmas 2009?).

http://thetvaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/omfg_caprica.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/49/32/0000034932_20061021035732.jpg

http://www.tvscoop.tv/pollywaker.jpg

[The Dirt]

Looks like 2010, but good news indeed! I wonder what they're going to do with the child actors. I'm sure they would age about 2 years by the time the show picks back up.

[thevarrior]

All I know is, hot females. This show will rock.

[The Dirt]

I really hope that they don't depart from the sci-fi angle too much. I understand that it's a family drama and that it's "different" from BSG, but all I'm asking for is a little futuristic stuff. I like the retro, film-noir look, but I'm hoping that they shoot for a more Blade Runner look, rather than an LA Confidential look.

[Pnutmaster]

I like the retro, film-noir look, but I'm hoping that they shoot for a more Blade Runner look, rather than an LA Confidential look.

That would require more neon lights and rain than Caprica City is capable of.

What a mind frak. Atia of the Julii. I still don't forgive her for making episode 1 of Rome hopelessly awkward with my mom in the room.

[Zlaticko]

Atia Rocks.

I'm hoping for a decent show; 'Terminator, TSCC' does pretty good for high tech, contemporary look, if that makes any sense. You could do the same with Caprica; no need for high tech visuals all the time.

[The Dirt]

That would require more neon lights and rain than Caprica City is capable of.

What a mind frak. Atia of the Julii. I still don't forgive her for making episode 1 of Rome hopelessly awkward with my mom in the room.

Why? Who did she do?

[genji2000]

The Thirteenth.

[thevarrior]

I really hope that they don't depart from the sci-fi angle too much. I understand that it's a family drama and that it's "different" from BSG, but all I'm asking for is a little futuristic stuff. I like the retro, film-noir look, but I'm hoping that they shoot for a more Blade Runner look, rather than an LA Confidential look.

Eh, it's a happy, hedonistic society though. Probably the most dark shit you're ever going to see are people turning into stim junkies.


What a mind frak. Atia of the Julii. I still don't forgive her for making episode 1 of Rome hopelessly awkward with my mom in the room.

Why? Who did she do?

Started off with an extremely explicit sex scene. I've seen it myself, and was like "uh lolwtf".

But hey, she's frigging hot.

I'm hoping for a decent show; 'Terminator, TSCC' does pretty good for high tech, contemporary look, if that makes any sense. You could do the same with Caprica; no need for high tech visuals all the time.

But... there's not all that much high tech in it. It takes place in frakking California, in 2008 (with Judgment Day impending by 2011). It's not all that high tech at all.

[pagad]

I really hope that they don't depart from the sci-fi angle too much. I understand that it's a family drama and that it's "different" from BSG, but all I'm asking for is a little futuristic stuff. I like the retro, film-noir look, but I'm hoping that they shoot for a more Blade Runner look, rather than an LA Confidential look.

Unfortunately, the use of trucks, barely disguised Humvees and Eastern European cars in BSG after seeing the flying cars in the miniseries (!) doesn't fill me with unbridled optimism...

[genji2000]

Yay! BSG without the annoying space battles and 'splosions!

[Zlaticko]

But that's my point; there are advanced hepi-poly-who's-yer-what'sis machines running around the world, and you don't have to CGI every last frame.

All I'm saying is that to look high tech does not mean you have to use high tech.

Season 3 Episode 1 and 2: "Yay! BSG without the annoying space battles..."

...there will always be 'splosions.

"We're more of the love, blood and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see."

[thevarrior]

But that's my point; there are advanced hepi-poly-who's-yer-what'sis machines running around the world, and you don't have to CGI every last frame.

Yeah but I think general consensus is they're a little more advanced than us.

[Zlaticko]

Fine. Green Screen the whole thing. Like 300.

[pagad]

"Yay! BSG without the annoying space battles..."

...there will always be 'splosions.

He's just winding me up.

[Pnutmaster]

The Thirteenth.

I swear. The moment she hired Pullo to instruct Octavian in manliness, I pictured a threesome with the goatie-little Jewish man (no offense, the man was the representative of Judaism in Rome), Livia-wannabe-Atia, and Pullo, with Octavian watching awkwardly from a distance.

Instead, Pullo frakked Cleopatra and spawned the bastard child that would be mistaken for Caesar's heir.

I miss that show sometimes, despite how it raped history and chronology for the sake of HBO (that, and Pullo's mistress in Season 2 had nice tits).

[pagad]

nice tits

This is essentially why people watched Rome.

[thevarrior]

This is essentially why people watched Rome.

This is essentially why people watched ANYTHING.

Fixed. :D

[Spencerian]

Always remember:

The Sci Fi Channel is run by NBC/Universal.
This is the same company that sold off "Star Trek."
While they employ an ample, talented group of people as part of the programs they airs, their management, particularly the people who are tasked to know what their viewers want, is historically clueless.

Not long ago the channel aired more psychics and wrestling than SF.
It's not that there's a dearth of SF. They really have no clue and, like other NBC/U networks, trend towards sensationalist programming to generate ratings.

It's pleasantly surprising that BSG ever aired at all.

[Prolescum]

Saw these, thought someone else might like them too.
http://www.blackmarketbeagles.com/images/lightbox/so_say_we_all.jpg
http://brian.carnell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/bsg_propaganda_posters.jpg

They're probably nothing to do with the first Cylon war, but it'd be nice if you saw them peeling off Caprican walls at some point.

[Zod]

I've got that poster set in my living room, they are so Orwellian, I love 'em!!

[sensational]

O my god i cannot believe this! there will be another tv series after bsg ended. with the woman of rome in it! but i have to wait for 2 years! merd.

[genji2000]

It's only a little over one year. BSG S4.5 is Jan-March, then there is the TV movie The Plan. Hopefully before the end of 2009 we'll get the Caprica pilot, then Caprica will start in early 2010.

[sensational]

Yes I think the world needs now is sweet love. There are so many bad things. The cylons have the plan.

[The Dirt]

French people are so reassuring. Must be the good food w/o getting fat like us 'Mericans.

[sensational]

French people are so reassuring. Must be the good food w/o getting fat like us 'Mericans.
Thank you The Dirt. You are friendly.

[Jonathan]

See the News Group (http://www.battlestarforum.com/group.php?groupid=13&gmid=142#gmessage142) for info

Caprica greenlit to series.

Aiming to air early 2010. Hopefully the pilot will be broadcast earlier (maybe before Xmas 2009?).

http://thetvaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/omfg_caprica.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/img.tv.yahoo.com/tv/us/img/site/49/32/0000034932_20061021035732.jpg

http://www.tvscoop.tv/pollywaker.jpg


I am such a huge fan of hers. I love her acting in Rome season 1 when she finds out her son was seduced, or rather allowed himself to be seduced, by his sister so she could get some info out of him. It was also great acting when she forced him to offer himself to Caesar as a catamite. Great cast on that show.

I'm reserving judgment on Caprica until after BSG ends and until I see some substantive video on Caprica.

[The Dirt]

The recent announcement that David Eick will be working on Caprica is a bit of good news. Now, if they could also get Bear McReary and a few of the original writers back that would be awesome.

[Pnutmaster]

I am such a huge fan of hers. I love her acting in Rome season 1 when she finds out her son was seduced, or rather allowed himself to be seduced, by his sister so she could get some info out of him. It was also great acting when she forced him to offer himself to Caesar as a catamite. Great cast on that show.

I take it you had a thing for young Octavian :lol:

[thevarrior]

The fuck is it with these Roman Emperors anyway? It's like all they did was have sex with incredibly beautiful women, live luxurious lives and kill some bitches in battle. No word of running state affairs.

[Zod]

They didnt have telly and crack to keep them occupied like we do nowadays. Plus who knew what the hell was doing on anyway, the media werent all that in those days or so I have been told. Thats why they were all stabbing each other in the back. too much alcohol.

[timbo]

It was also great acting when she forced him to offer himself to Caesar as a catamite.



Catamite? What´s that all about then? Sounds like cat flavoured marmite.
Think this might be my thousandth post.

[thevarrior]

They didnt have telly and crack to keep them occupied like we do nowadays. Plus who knew what the hell was doing on anyway, the media werent all that in those days or so I have been told. Thats why they were all stabbing each other in the back. too much alcohol.

Them durn ancient world droogz! Turnin' our chilluns an' our emperor's on each other and destroyin' society like de barbarians!

I mean, come on though, more needed to follow Commodus's example and go "an hero" inside of the Collisseum (forgive the 4chan reference :P).

[Zod]

Catamite? What´s that all about then? Sounds like cat flavoured marmite.

LOL!!

Think this might be my thousandth post.

Timbo, the number after 998 is 999, not 1000.

[pagad]

Or is it?

[Zod]

Are there any mathematicians in da house??

[Thoth]

Hmmm. I kind of wonder if this series will be successful or not. There are certainly some talented people that are in it and writing it, so we will have to see. I certainly hope it is new and exciting!

[The Dirt]

This just popped into my head. BSG is the most time-shifted program, meaning advertisers get less revenue. To make up for DVR related losses, advertisers have shifted to doing in-show ad placement. With Caprica, that's pretty much impossible, unless you want Joe Adama drinking a beer that looks like a Corona but has a "Caprica" label on it that looks just like a Corona label. Actually, all that product placement makes me sick. Whenever I see someone eating or drinking and the label happens to be perfectly turned towards the camera and perfectly in focus, I want to punch my Samsung flat-panel TV that I bought at Best Buy.

Anyway, this show will have to give Sci-Fi and Sky-One plenty of insentive to keep it going. Caprica will not be able to do that without outdoing BSG in ratings, and that requires them to draw in a broader audience. Nevermind good writing, good acting, and critical acclaim. If there aren't more people watching, the show will die or be cancelled after 2 seasons.

My personal concern is that the show, while being separate from BSG, still stays true to the continuity and expands the BSG universe without retconning it. I also desperately want to see how the First Cylon War began and some space shooting action. Which brings me to another point - smaller budget. Without all the SFX, Caprica will be much cheaper, so it may survive with lower ratings.

[genji2000]

This just popped into my head. BSG is the most time-shifted program, meaning advertisers get less revenue. To make up for DVR related losses, advertisers have shifted to doing in-show ad placement. With Caprica, that's pretty much impossible, unless you want Joe Adama drinking a beer that looks like a Corona but has a "Caprica" label on it that looks just like a Corona label.

That could work. Really well. Fans would see all the in-jokes and how they'd laugh so, advertisers would fund the production... it could be really good. Caprica must have a Coke and a Ford and a Bisto. Great idea Dirt.

Actually, all that product placement makes me sick. Whenever I see someone eating or drinking someone and the label happens to be perfectly turned towards the camera and perfectly in focus, I want to punch my Samsung flat-panel TV that I bought at Best Buy.

This is turning into an excellent post.

Anyway, this show will have to give Sci-Fi and Sky-One plenty of insentive to keep it going. Caprica will not be able to do that without outdoing BSG in ratings, and that requires them to draw in a broader audience. Nevermind good writing, good acting, and critical acclaim. If there aren't more people watching, the show will die or be cancelled after 2 seasons.

I have a strong feeling that Caprica has been picked up to be SFC's flagship show as they head into more mainstream television.

My personal concern is that the show, while being separate from BSG, still stays true to the continuity and expands the BSG universe without retconning it. I also desperately want to see how the First Cylon War began and some space shooting action. Which brings me to another point - smaller budget. Without all the SFX, Caprica will be much cheaper, so it may survive with lower ratings.

My main concern is that they get Coca-Capa into it somewhere.

[The Dirt]

McDoral's
Lords of Kobol Burgers

[genji2000]

DKCC
Catman: The Dark Knight/movie

and of course

Starbucks

[The Dirt]

I'm going to assume that tacos and burritos come from Gemenon.