Wild Speculation re:Count Iblis

[brokedown77]

OK, let me start by admitting I watched and enjoyed the original series (and that makes me OLD).

So I held back from watching the new version until the first season started, but once I started I have been entranced. I have also, in the back of my mind, noticed the parallels, especially in Season 1 to the original series episodes.

So where is Count Iblis, the beings of light, and all the stuff from "War of the Gods"?

My theory is we will see in the final season. Further, my theory is that Starbuck was "resurrected" by the beings of light just like Apollo was in "War of the Gods". If so, that makes Head Leoben, Head Six and maybe Head Baltar analogous to the Angels of the original series. Since Count Iblis was a fallen angel in that mythology maybe they are all fallen angels in this mythology.

My thinking relies heavily on a spoiler that was on IO9 that said Starbuck sees her own body in the wreckage of a spacecraft this season. The dead body in space craft wreckage was used in the original series in a completely different way, to expose Count Iblis, and maybe this will expose head Leoben (and the other heads) eventually.

FWIW I think Zarek is 12th Cylon and I think there is an "imperious leader" (the Cylon god, not the original hybrid in Razor) analogue that may only be revealed if "Caprica" is made into a series.

[The Nubs]

I often wonder if there will be some big tie in to the orginal series to wrap up the show. Although, I don't really see it happening it is possible. I for one see more of a tie in to the creation of man on earth ie. the monologe from the original series then seeing the beings of light.

[brokedown77]

Here's more from IO9:
Sources tell io9 that Starbuck isn't alone when she discovers her own dead body in a crashed Raptor -- Leoben is with her. The 10th episode of Battlestar Galactica season four also includes scenes of Col. Tigh in the water screaming for Ellen, and Tyrol flashing back to a past life.
They are saying it is a Raptor, not a Viper, so it may not be connected with her original 'death', but may have to do with "all this has happened before...".
Anyway, in the original series there was a crashed ship and Apollo and Starbuck wanted Sheba to look inside it (they had earlier) to get her to renounce Count Iblis and see what he really was. She never did, but Iblis tried to kill her to keep her from doing it, but killed Apollo instead who was resurrected on the Ship of Lights in a bright white version of his uniform by the Beings of Light. Iblis wasn't allowed to kill anyone who hadn't freely given themselves to him.
Starbuck was incessantly hounded by Leoben on New Caprica to freely give herself to him and in order to save Kasey in Exodus, Part II, she pretended to give in just before stabbing him for the last time. The in Maelstrom she sort of gave in to Head Leoben and followed him.
Parallels? It looks like it to me.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

I really don't think they'll go down the "Ship of Lights" or Count Iblis route... They really have a lot to wrap up already, and adding that into the mix would just be tantamount to shooting themselves in the foot.

[brokedown77]

Yeah, it is a big can of worms, but I look at this photo

http://www.bsg.cz/galerie/promos/401/hi_ep401_007.jpg

and that's the whitest Mark II Viper I've ever seen. Here's the Battlestar Wiki description of what happened aboard the Ship of Lights:


They transport Apollo's body back in the shuttle. On the way back the mysterious lights fly near them, eventually approaching them (causing the whining noise).



Starbuck appears in a strange white chamber. His uniform is entirely white.



One of the mysterious white clad figures in the room claims that they are in a different dimension.



Sheba arrives, and her uniform has also been turned white. Sheba wonders if they are both dead.



They are lead to a chamber where Apollo is laying on a table on a raised pedestal.



Sheba and Starbuck are asked if they would sacrifice their life for Apollo's. Sheba agrees to sacrifice her life. The voice also points out that Starbuck had said that he would trade places with Apollo if he could (back onboard the shuttle).



Apollo sits up on the table. Sheba rushes to his side.



Starbuck says that they can take what they want. The voice says that they don't want anything. They are fighting a common foe, the forces of darkness throughout the galaxy. The beings were once as the Colonials were, and the Colonials may someday become like the beings.



Count Iblis is one of their race, but uses his powers to turn people away from the truth. The beings of light do not stop him because they cannot interfere with free will.



The beings will return all the Viper pilots, as well as Starbuck, Apollo, and Sheba.



The crew is reunited aboard Galactica. Their memories of the beings of light, and their experiences on the ship, have been erased.

To me, the whiteness, resurrection, the mysterious beings resonate with Starbuck's current situation. Remember that Head Leoben already said he wasn't Leoben.