BSG Survivor - THE WINNER

[genji2000]

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I saw this over on the battlestarblog, so I've shamelessly stolen it, including their logo. Credit to whoever came up with the idea.

The rules are obvious - just vote for the worst episode from Season One. You have until this time next Saturday to cast your vote, then I (or someone else) will post a new poll with the remaining episodes, and we can vote another one off before the following Saturday. Eventually we'll end up with one episode, which will be the best episode of the season in the opinion of the forum as a whole. If we get through a vote a week it'll take thirteen weeks, which is about how long is left until Season 4.5 starts.

[pagad]

Voting for Colonial Day as I don't remember enjoying it as much as the rest of the mostly-excellent Season 1.

[genji2000]

I agree. I don't know what the point of that Valance guy was. It had some good Baltar moments but overall it sucked a bit.

[hechtrolle]

I like "Colonial Day"! It's a nice change from all the episodes set on Galactica. And I enjoyed all the political intrigue, Roslin's backstabbing/pragmatism, getting to see how the fleet news system works. A better episode than "Litmus", surely?

[Shadow Rider]

This is probably the hardest season to vote for the "worst" episode.

[Stairway]

Great idea! I love polls!

Water, it's boring, but still much better than most from Season 4.

[genji2000]

I'm surprised at the choice of Water. I thought it was a great episode. I felt the interplay between Boomer and Tyrol was a bit unconvincing but I enjoyed the episode nonetheless.

[The Dirt]

Tigh Me Whatever was not bad, but I thought that the Billy/Dee stuff was lame. I also didn't like the funny music during all of the comedic parts of the episode. Ellen is a mega-whore who should die! Oh wait, she did. I was sad to see her go.

[hechtrolle]

Hey genji, how about adding a survivor game for S4.5, too?

[genji2000]

Feel free. Like Season One, probably one vote per week, I reckon.

[Stairway]

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Colonial Day takes the day off and ends in 13th place, not much of a surprise to everyone (except maybe timbo, but he's full of weird ideas).

The rules are obvious - just vote for the worst episode from Season One from the 12 ones remaining. You have until this time next Saturday to cast your vote, then I (or someone else) will post a new poll with the remaining episodes, and we can vote another one off before the following Saturday. Eventually we'll end up with one episode, which will be the best episode of the season in the opinion of the forum as a whole. If we get through a vote a week it'll take thirteen weeks, which is about how long is left until Season 4.5 starts.

[pagad]

Can't say I liked Tigh Me Up... that much, to be honest. Season 1's probably the most difficult for me, as I think it's the most consistent in terms of quality.

[The Dirt]

Season 1 was pretty solid overall. I liked Colonial Day as it was a nice showcase of colonial politics and civilian life. It also was a good setup for Baltar's VP and presidency at the end of Season 2, as well as Zarek's attempts at power grabbing. Tigh Up/Down was good too, but it just had some weak moments for me, such as the Billy/Dee scenes, and the whole Raider thing was pointless.

[Stairway]

The votes are very spread out on this season, which is understandable since every single episode is great.

[Batman316]

can't believe 'Water' got some votes.... Tigh me Up is a complete fuckton worse than Water

[The Dirt]

Agree. Water was brilliant.

[pagad]

Once Tigh Me Up... disappears, things should get interesting. I can't think of a single episode that's left that I really dislike.

[Batman316]

Once Tigh Me Up... disappears, things should get interesting. I can't think of a single episode that's left that I really dislike.

So say we all

[Stairway]

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12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Looks like Tigh Me Up Tigh Me Down got tied down and it out of the race.

[pagad]

Bastille Day. I like all of the remaining episodes, including this one, but I'm voting for it because I think the episodes that come before and after - Water and Act of Contrition - are superior, and therefore overshadow it somewhat.

[Batman316]

I tend to agree..... Bastille Day wasn't a 'bad' episode.... just not as good as the rest

[The Dirt]

Six Degrees... a "funny" episode. Good, but no long term consequences or anything. Bastille Day came in 2nd.

[Stairway]

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11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Bastille Day got stormed with votes and ends up with a place in history.

[The Dirt]

Six Degrees. Felt like a bit of filler with some humor added, and still not payoff about who Shelly was.

[hechtrolle]

I still think "Litmus" is one of the worst episodes of S1. That Hadrian character was a right b*tch.

[benboy606]

Six Degrees of Seperation

HUGE filler. It was good, but...nothing great.

[Hofner1962]

I loved the end of "Litmus" when Adama put her in her place.

There are things I like about 6 degrees, especially putting Baltar through the ringer in order to make him unassailable (or less easily assailable) later.

However I am deeply unsatisfied with the whole Shelley storyline. Either she was a visible personification of Head 6 - which has not happened again and is not explained, or she was a cylon that came out of hiding which implies that head 6 has some sort of communication with the cylons though that has never been followed up.

Thinking more about it, if Shelley really had been Doctor Amorak's assistant, then she could have been the one that Caprica six talked to in the mini.

[The Dirt]

Yeah, plot holes galore! Since Baltar worked with Amorak, I think he would know that he assistant looked just like his girlfriend of 2 years. Otherwise, that would be a great sitcom. Anyway, I'll say it again - why the hell does Baltar not know his Cylon girlfriend's real name? Also, if she was just an apparition, what's up with her glasses? Why didn't they disappear?

[Stairway]

Argh, at the moment's it's 4 for Litmus and 5 for Six Degrees... and I like six degrees far more than Litmus, but since I have to make sure there's no tie this is quite a pickle.

[genji2000]

can you sort out the others while you're at it? I'm Xmas shopping. Ta.

Incidentally, what is the point of this sign?

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[Prolescum]

Xmas...

[genji2000]

Xmas...

What about it?

[Stairway]

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10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Six Degrees of Separation got separated from the remaining episodes and ended up staying in 10th place.

[genji2000]

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10. Six Degrees of Separation
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12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Litmus? Shitmus, more like. Everyone hated it and voted it off. That chick looked too much like Helena Cain for everyone's liking and went nuts with power.

[Stairway]

Water.
Thanks for setting up the poll for me/us genji!

[The Dirt]

Water was always one of my favorites. What is the reasoning that it's weaker than You Can't Go Home Again?

[Stairway]

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10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Looks like Water got blown out of the water.

[genji2000]

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11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Looks like Water got blown out of the water.

That has to be the worst link I've ever seen. Who made you a mod?

[pagad]

Water was an excellent episode, as are all the remaining episodes.

Genj: go easy on her, she's still making the poll (I think, because as of the time of writing the poll isn't there yet). Tell me you've never made a mistake in a post that you've subsequently corrected.

[genji2000]

You're right. I have on occasion made either a mistaken or badly judged post that I regretted and subsequently corrected. But I NEVER did THIS:
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9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Looks like Water got blown out of the water.

[Stairway]

It was there for 3 seconds before I edited it! genji's fast!

[pagad]

Actually, I edited your post ¬_¬

Cluster edit?

[The Dirt]

Flesh and Bone, huh? That was one of my favorites of Season 1. Leoben is a pretty interesting character in this one, and the whole Starbuck's destiny/you will find Kobol was a nice one as well.

[pagad]

I think the problem with this particular poll is that all the episodes left are genuinely excellent. Hence, the split votes.

Despite that, why on earth did someone vote for HoG?

[Stairway]

Despite that, why on earth did someone vote for HoG?
I was thinking about that too. Good thing I have some self-control cause otherwise I'd go angry mod on his/her ass.

[The Dirt]

I love how these polls are decided by a group of 8 voters.

[Prolescum]

It's an international eight, though.

[The Dirt]

It's an international eight, though.

Good point. I retract my previous statement.

[Prolescum]

Do you always fall in and out of love so easily? Tsk tsk...

[The Dirt]

Comments like this will only further the idea that there needs to be a Prol/Dirt slashfic.

[pagad]

Admittedly, "international" in this case usually means about half-a-dozen Brits and Americans, a couple of Germans and a Swede.

[thevarrior]

Comments like this will only further the idea that there needs to be a Prol/Dirt slashfic.

http://th01.deviantart.com/fs18/300W/i/2007/156/f/d/SHOOP_DA_WHOOP_SVG_TEMPLATE_by_Trudetski.png

[The Dirt]

Admittedly, "international" in this case usually means about half-a-dozen Brits and Americans, a couple of Germans and a Swede.

I'm Russian/Ukrainian with US citizenship. That sort of expands the field a little.

[thevarrior]

I thought we had someone Spanish here as well

[stavrosg]

Timbo is from UK but lives in Spain.

With me in, you also have a weird Greek guy :P

[thevarrior]

Perhaps we should all just change our nationality to "Intarwebs"

[The Dirt]

I hear that Greece is one solid riot from coast to er... land boundary.

[stavrosg]

Yes, it's a mess, and it seems that it is going to last several more days, at least.

[The Dirt]

Can I get a Greek's perspective on this? How did it start? What's the deal?

[thevarrior]

Ditto, what exactly is going on?

[pagad]

Is something happening in Greece that I should know about?

[ermyes2002]

I was thinking about that too. Good thing I have some self-control cause otherwise I'd go angry mod on his/her ass.

Thought it was a great episode, but not as interesting as the other choices, plot wise a bit thin: Apollo not sure of himself -> blows up deathstar, ehm, cylon base, with his father's lighter -> Apollo sure of himself. Meh

[stavrosg]

Can I get a Greek's perspective on this? How did it start? What's the deal?
In a few words:
Last Saturday night, a policeman killed a 16 year old kid. The victim's friends say that it was intentional, and since then we had MAJOR riots going in every city of the country. It is not about this kid of course, but this incident was probably the last straw that broke things up, since a lot of people were extremely unhappy about the present administration.

Hopefully it will get calmer soon.

[Neakal]

Yea looks pretty messy on TV.

We'll probably have one soon as well. We're just too busy fighting over laicité to get pissed off at the police right now.

Ontopic: Personally I am having trouble voting. Can't decide what to vote off : /

[thevarrior]

In a few words:
Last Saturday night, a policeman killed a 16 year old kid. The victim's friends say that it was intentional, and since then we had MAJOR riots going in every city of the country. It is not about this kid of course, but this incident was probably the last straw that broke things up, since a lot of people were extremely unhappy about the present administration.

Hopefully it will get calmer soon.

God willing, I hope it gets better.

Yeah, I'm assuming it has something to do with Greece's not-so-healthy economy.

[The Dirt]

The gist I got from the radio is that it had something to do with the economy, jobs, and a bad education system. I can't see rioting as being very constructive, but it certainly does get the attention of the government.

[Stairway]

I'm Russian/Ukrainian with US citizenship. That sort of expands the field a little.
I'm 1/8 Norwegian if that helps. :) And 1/16 sami.

[Prolescum]

I'm Scottish with an English accent almost as posh as Pagad's; does that add to the discussion?

[thevarrior]

... I'm 100% Indian born in the US... since we're all comparing ethnicities.

*hides*

[Stairway]

Well this puts me in a little bit of a pickel, I'd vote for Flesh & Bone but then there'd be a tie so I guess I'll just not vote then.hrm...

[The Dirt]

As much as I loved Flesh and Bone, I think that everyone should vote. We can always have a run-off.

[Stairway]

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7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

You Can't Go Home Again went home and is out of the competition.

[genji2000]

I forgot about these threads.

[Prolescum]

Does anybody know what the last remaining eps are on the site that you nicked the idea from? It'd be interesting to see.

[pagad]

Flesh And Bone is a good episode, but too grimdark compared to the others.

[genji2000]

Does anybody know what the last remaining eps are on the site that you nicked the idea from? It'd be interesting to see.

Not yet, but I did find this:

http://grantgould.com/misc/bsg/costumecontest08vote.jpg

OK, I've found it now:

http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll480/genji2000_photo/BSGblogSurvivorS1.jpg?t=1229405921

[The Dirt]

Don't we have 2 1/2 other seasons to vote on? What's the deal?

And where the hell are these girls getting the red dress? It doesn't seem your standard Macy's garb. Also, thank you for helping be realize that BSG ugly = TV ugly.

Also, Act of Contrition. Sort of slowish for me. Carry on.

[genji2000]

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6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Angst of Contrition bought the big one this week as its apologies fell on deaf ears.

I have merged all the previous Survivor threads for this season so as to give the Episode Talk sub-forum back to discussion about the episodes.

[Zod]

Its got to be hand of god next surely??

[Stairway]

No way I'd let hand of god get out!

[Zod]

I cant believe flesh and bone is racking up the votes. That and 33 are the best episodes in series 1 and probably the whole thing in my opinion.

ho, hum, horses for courses..back to the soccer...still 0-0

[The Dirt]

But Flesh (as good of an episode that it is) does not have explodey things and horrified looks on dying pilots! Also, it doesn't pay homage to SW like Hand of God does, unless you count the torture scenes paying homage to how I felt every time I saw Jar-jar Binks.

[genji2000]

Well, you had the rape of Leia torture scene too.

I think it's worth praising how different HoG and FaB were.

[stavrosg]

Flesh and Bone is one of my favourites.
Probably because it is the episode Leoben meets Kara.

[The Dirt]

Looks like Flesh and Bone is about to get fleshed and boned. (I've got nothing here.)

[Zod]

dammit my computer just crashed and i lost my reply..

I cannot honestly believe that you guys would sacrifice 'Flesh and Blood' to save the 'Hand of Zod' episode.

Granted, great effects in HOG but in terms of craft, rich and vibrant character analysis and psychology, FAB wins Hand down. C'mon people, sort it out...

[Batman316]

Hand of God.... crap these polls are starting to get hard.

[pagad]

Flesh And Bone was a damn good episode, as has nearly every other episode voted out from this season.

However, Hand of God is one of the finest moments of the series.

but in terms of craft, rich and vibrant character analysis and psychology

There seriously is only so much of this I can take (what you've descibed, Zod, not your attitude :D). Sometimes BSG can feel too oppressive on this front, and certainly in Flesh And Bone.

[Zod]

There seriously is only so much of this I can take (what you've descibed, Zod, not your attitude :D). Sometimes BSG can feel too oppressive on this front, and certainly in Flesh And Bone.

Fair enough!:)

[pagad]

I mean, it's great that BSG has those things, obviously. It can just go overboard with it sometimes. There's also the feel-good factor. Hand of God...you feel great at the end of it. Lee's done it, he's fired the proton torpedoes at the refining tanks, the Cylons have had their noses properly bloodied for the first time since Galactica gave them that nasty surprise at Ragnar. Flesh And Bone...the whole DARKER AND EDGIER stuff doesn't leave you feeling great. It's still a great episode, obviously. Really, the two episodes represent both sides of what BSG does really well.

[Stairway]

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5. Flesh And Bone
6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

Flesh & Bone got fleshed out by the bones and ends up 5th.

[pagad]

I don't think I can choose, tbh.

[genji2000]

It's easy. Against the finale and the opening episode HoG cannot stand.

[pagad]

I think HoG is my favourite S1 episode. I can't pick between the others.

[Zod]

Hand of God for me. It just doesnt have the gravitas that the other episodes have. After that though, I'm out. I cant choose between the last 3.

I cant believe Flesh and None got voted out before HoG.

[stavrosg]

I really liked HoG, and reserve 33 for the 1st place, so voting is a bit easy (I think).

[pagad]

As good as 33 is, I'm going to have to pick that over the others.

[Stairway]

Well I agree with Pagad, but nothing I vote for could save Hand of God anyway.

[Stairway]

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4. Hand of God
5. Flesh And Bone
6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

The magnificent Hand of God wasn't touched by the hand of god and therefore couldn't hit the cylon refinery and ended up in 4th.

[Stairway]

I'm gonna go ahead and vote 33 on this. As great as it is, it doesn't beat the KLG's and the first time I saw it I was bored. Around the time of KLG I was hooked and a lot more interested and that feeling still remains when I watch them.

[genji2000]

I'm with you, Stairway. 33 blew me away when I first watched it. I couldn't believe what I was seeing unfold. The Kobols topped it, though, in my book, especially the montage at the start of Part 1.

[Sgt Teta]

33, because i thaught "ah no, what if they screw it up, make a great mini-series, but then chance the whole cast before the real series begins...." (kinda SG-1 style, only, that worked well!) but they didnt it just blew you away from the get go

[pagad]

KLG Pt. II is going to win in the end.

[Neakal]

KLG Pt. II is going to win in the end.

I wouldn't accept it otherwise tbh. KLG2 was my first BSG episode and I already talked about my train of thought as I watched it. And its still a beautiful episode.

[Stairway]

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3. 33
4. Hand of God
5. Flesh And Bone
6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

33 felt like finishing third and fell far from first.

Ok people, this is the final vote, the 16th is nigh and by then we shall have our answer to who is the world's next top BSG Season 1 episode!

[hechtrolle]

Nothing can beat the opening sequence of KLG pt 1! Plus, I found the whole Sharon-on-the-basestar scene a tad lacking in tension. We've known she's a Cylon since the miniseries, it just wasn't really the huge dramatic moment it could've been. So, silver medal for KLG pt 2.

[genji2000]

Yeah it was a toss-up between the opening montage and 15 naked Sharons.

[Zod]

Part 11 wins for me, the opening montage is excellent in Part 1 but Part 11 really moves things forward for me and sets up the first 7 eps of season 11 perfectly IMO.

[Batman316]

Really.... is this vote needed.... It would be a dumb ass situation is a Part 2 was considered worse than the episode that sets it up

[pagad]

I think it's quite neat that 33 came 3rd.

Also KLG Pt. II should win because Adama getting shot was one of the most brilliantly executed (pun not intended) scenes in BSG.

[genji2000]

Adama getting shot was one of the most brilliantly executed (pun not intended) scenes

(nor achieved)

[Stairway]

Nah, I must say Part I is somewhat better. Although Part II had The Shape of Things to Come, Part I had Passaglia and less religious number six crap.

[Stairway]

FINAL SCORE!!

1. Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II
2. Kobol's Last Gleaming Part I
3. 33
4. Hand of God
5. Flesh And Bone
6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

I can't say we're surprised.

And I'd also like to thank you all who participated. Did I mention I love polls? :P

[genji2000]

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1. Kobol's Last Gleaming part 2
2. Kobol's Last Gleaming part 1
3. 33
4. Hand of God
5. Flesh And Bone
6. Act of Contrition
7. You Can't Go Home Again
8. Water
9. Litmus
10. Six Degrees of Separation
11. Bastille Day
12. Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
13. Colonial Day

After the tumult, after the glory, after all the death, there can be only one, and that one is:
KOBOL'S LAST GLEAMING part 2
Go Kobol!

[The Dirt]

there can be only one
Ironic that there are 2.

[Prolescum]

Haha.