Fragged (Rewatch)

[bazzyb]

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[Stairway]

Ah. Awesome episode. To describe it in one word would be; intense.

Best part about it though; the music. We hear the introduction of Tigh's theme; Martial Law and also the epic Baltar's Dream (which is the song that made me want to hear more from the rest of the soundtrack before I had seen anything). Set only hours after Adama was shot, the entire fleet is falling apart under Tigh's command.

Great scenes

Tigh meeting Billy in a corridor
- Why aren't you in the brig?
- Um, because, no one put me in there?

Baltar arguing against Crashdown's plan
- We've already lost two men Chief, how many more are we going to lose?!?
- You need to sit down, and shut up right now.
- Nobody tells me to shut up, I'm the vice president...
- You sit down, and shut up right now.
*Baltar sits down and shuts up*

Cheif trying to be a hero, stands up to give a last shot at shooting the cylons when Racetrack's and Apollo's raptor come to the rescue.
*Chief looks at his gun*
- You're welcome.

Tigh declares Martial Law, exists the room and takes a drink from his bootleg.

[BSGfan-atic]

I loved it that it was Baltar who shot Crashdown. That was probably something nobody would have expected. I thought they did a great job of portraying the craziness that wracked the relatively inexperienced team as they tried to hold it together in ground combat. I do kind of miss Crashdown, though. It was kind of cool that he was a survivor from another battlestar. I would have loved to have found out how he ended up on Galactica, and no other Colonial Fleet members did.

[westie]

I was probably one of the very few who felt ambivalent about the three-arced storyline at the start of Season 2, and Fragged is possibly one of my least favourites of the series. I admire them - they certainly are gritty and realistic and depict fantastically well the chaos that descends upon the fleet.... but they're not exactly uplifting to watch are they? Seeing Tigh declare Martial Law is really difficult to watch, as is the titular fragging itself. I feel kinda bad for Crashdown too.
So, great episodes conceptually, but not enjoyable ones. At least in my opinion...

[genji2000]

...I would have loved to have found out how [Crashdown] ended up on Galactica, and no other Colonial Fleet members did.

Just don't.

I was probably one of the very few who felt ambivalent about the three-arced storyline at the start of Season 2, and Fragged is possibly one of my least favourites of the series. I admire them - they certainly are gritty and realistic and depict fantastically well the chaos that descends upon the fleet.... but they're not exactly uplifting to watch are they? Seeing Tigh declare Martial Law is really difficult to watch, as is the titular fragging itself. I feel kinda bad for Crashdown too.
So, great episodes conceptually, but not enjoyable ones. At least in my opinion...

I understand exactly what you're saying, but in comparison with the utterly desolate and depressing sequence on New Caprica that began Season Three I think these episodes are very good. Certainly, on first watch, I was a complete whore for this arc. I thought the danger and stupidity of the Crashdown situation taking place in the lovely light and natural surroundings was and excellent adventure. I even sort of vaguely considered Cally as ok in this episode when she's so scared stiff to go on Crashdown's foolhardy errand. As BSGf says, yay for Baltar. I also felt this episode did him no end of favours. Action-wise, it was an amazingly well-executed episode, easily on a par with Hand of God. The shot of the Raptors coming in, seen through the entrance of the Opera House, is ace. Tyrol's shooting of the DRADIS dish is spot on. And YES - way to go last ditch heroic attempt with a pistol that blows the frakking frak out of the Cylons.

Excellent. Sorry, but I love this boys' own stuff.

"Your day's gonna come, laughing boy."

For the record, Laura doesn't mention Earth in this episode. She says she will lead the people to salvation, wherever that is.

Crashdown the hero. Crashdown the gobshite, more like.

Ooh... Baltar strikes back. Head Six tells him murder is what makes us human. That belligerent response is what makes us human: "Is it?"

Tigh roolz.

[BSGfan-atic]

Genji2000,

Just don't.

What do you mean? Is this a question that has been discussed ad nauseum? Was this something that led to lots of capital letters and exclamation points and general flaming? The succintness of your comment gives me that impression.

And Westie wrote:
they certainly are gritty and realistic and depict fantastically well the chaos that descends upon the fleet.... but they're not exactly uplifting to watch are they? Seeing Tigh declare Martial Law is really difficult to watch, as is the titular fragging itself.

This is what makes the show so good, the fact that it shows characters at their worst, and not just at their best, like all the frakkin' politicians and their frakkin' spin doctors.

[genji2000]

Genji2000,
What do you mean? Is this a question that has been discussed ad nauseum? Was this something that led to lots of capital letters and exclamation points and general flaming? The succintness of your comment gives me that impression.

No - it was an attempt at humour. Your pondering about Crashdown might be interpreted as a precursor to setting him up as the Final Cylon.

[Wouter]

Crashdown, I suppose, was flying around in his Raptor when the Cylons attacked and escaped, much like Boomer and Helo did, when his (Viper) buddies and battlestar were destroyed. He then had to turn to the only battlestar that was still around in the system: Galactica (Pegasus had jumped far away with their blind jump). I don't think he was the only survivor from the fleet. Given the unusually high numbers of Raptors on Galactica after the attack, and the high chance of a Raptor to survive combat because they were suppose to stay out of the thick of it, there were probably quite a few who found their way to the only remaining operational battlestar that they could still reach.

[Joe Beaudoin Jr.]

He was probably with his own CAP for his own BSG.