Adama backs "crazy" chip theory - official

[timbo]

I return after nearly a week off the forum - lost my internet connection - to find that everyone is so focussed on the final scene, that they missed the most important piece of information from the episode. When Tigh confessed to him, Adama´s first reaction was "they did something to you on New Caprica, put a chip in you or something. Let´s go see Doc Cottle." Unfortunately, they did not have time to do this because of the crisis situation. Tigh will see Cottle, and the chip will be discovered in the next few episodes, I am sure.

In the light of this "revelation", I ask you once more to consider this idea, bearing in mind that it now has the backing of the main man - Adama himself.

[genji2000]

I return after nearly a week off the forum - lost my internet connection - to find that everyone is so focussed on the final scene, that they missed the most important piece of information from the episode. When Tigh confessed to him, Adama´s first reaction was "they did something to you on New Caprica, put a chip in you or something. Let´s go see Doc Cottle." Unfortunately, they did not have time to do this because of the crisis situation. Tigh will see Cottle, and the chip will be discovered in the next few episodes, I am sure.

In the light of this "revelation", I ask you once more to consider this idea, bearing in mind that it now has the backing of the main man - Adama himself.

It's not that they didn't have time to do it, it's that Tigh refused because
H E . I S . A . C Y L O N

[pagad]

i Return After Nearly A Week Off The Forum - Lost My Internet Connection - To Find That Everyone Is So Focussed On The Final Scene, That They Missed The Most Important Piece Of Information From The Episode. When Tigh Confessed To Him, Adama´s First Reaction Was "they Did Something To You On New Caprica, Put A Chip In You Or Something. Let´s Go See Doc Cottle." Unfortunately, They Did Not Have Time To Do This Because Of The Crisis Situation. Tigh Will See Cottle, And The Chip Will Be Discovered In The Next Few Episodes, I Am Sure.

In The Light Of This "revelation", I Ask You Once More To Consider This Idea, Bearing In Mind That It Now Has The Backing Of The Main Man - Adama Himself.

Aaargh

EDIT: I'm going to put a bit of reasoning behind that strangled moan.

Adama was desperately looking for a way out. You can see, plainly, that Adama believes Tigh, but wants it to be otherwise, and fully accepts it after the "Bill, listen to me. I am a frakking Cylon" speech. Why else would he go berserk in his office again?

Although I'm glad to see the ship was spared this time.

[LSOP]

timbo, you have a right to your theories, for sure, but really, why do you cling to this one so tenaciously? Tigh is final five, D'Anna saw him in her vision. The writers can do whatever they want, but they just aren't going to do the chip thing! And would you want them to anyway? That solution wouldn't satisfy me.

[Xenon242]

Although I'm glad to see the ship was spared this time.

I'm sure the production company's insurance people are glad, too! ;)

[The Dirt]

timbo, you have a right to your theories, for sure, but really, why do you cling to this one so tenaciously?

I think Timbo has a chip in his brain! :p

[thevarrior]

RDM confirmed Tigh to be a Cylon and one of the Final Five. If it weren't frakking obvious enough, Anders' eye is able to use Friend/Foe recognition with the Raiders. The four that were revealed ARE Cylons.

[genji2000]

I think Timbo has a chip in his brain! :p

What the hell would they connect it to?

Only kidding, timbo.

[timbo]

I found those two old posts about believing something when there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I am gonna paste them below, and them I promise I will shut up about Tigh until the show starts up again. One last word on the matter. I still think the scale is wrong. If the show is a who´s a cylon mystery, then Tigh not being a cylon would not work. But, if the show is about why humanity should survive, or how to break the cycle of great civilisations destroying themselves, or the importance of love, or even the existence of God, as I believe, then Tigh not being a cylon fits the scale of the show.

Insight into delusional thinking no 1.

I had this vision of myself, sitting on one of those little milking stools with my face six inches from my TV screen. The credits are rolling at the end of the last ever episode, and my wife is saying "come on Timbo, give it up. Tigh is a cylon. Its time to let it go." I whisper, "no, no, they must be waiting until after the credits to spring the surprise. They are leaving it pretty late though, eh? With a mad grin, I turn to my wife, "I hope all my friends on the forum keep watching after the credits, or they are gonna miss it, ha ha." She then gently leads me by the arm, "c´mon, its time for your meds", and I shuffle through to my new bedroom, with its soothing colours and no sharp edges.


In sight into delusional thinking no 2.

Let me tell you a story......

Timbo is deep inside a long train tunnel, taking a short cut with a few of his friends. In the distance, two faint lights appear and one of Timbo´s friends says "that might be a train". Timbo says "no, it is just two fireflies dancing in the warmth of the evening. The lights get brighter and are now accompanied by a low rumbling and another of the group says "Timbo, I think it´s a train, I think we should get out of the tunnel". Timbo, blind to his friends concern says" look the pretty fireflies are putting on a show for us". Timbo´s friends turn and begin to run for safety, screaming now, Timbo, Timbo, it´s a freight train, run. Finally, Timbo is alone in the tunnel, his friends having long since fled to safety. The tunnel is now flooded with the light of a thousand suns and there is deafening roar rattling the tunnel to its very bones. Timbo, his eyes carrying a serene glaze, kneels and holds out a steady hand and says "come fragile fireflies, settle on my palm and dance just for me".

[pagad]

...

That...

Uh, I'm not sure how to react to that.

[fr33lancer]

..... wow.

[ranvir]

roflllll

[The Dirt]

I think timbo officially lost it... or the chip is malfunctioning or something.

[genji2000]

...

That...

Uh, I'm not sure how to react to that.

Methinks our Timbo has some special destiny.

Or needs or something.

[LSOP]

You could be a writer for BSG, timbo. Those were a couple of strong images you painted, although I'm not sure for what purpose. But if you do become a writer for BSG, pretty please don't put a chip in Tigh's head!

[genji2000]

You could be a writer for BSG, timbo. Those were a couple of strong images you painted, although I'm not sure for what purpose. But if you do become a writer for BSG, pretty please don't put a chip in Tigh's head!

That's the only way it's going to happen.

[timbo]

Thanks fellow forum dudes, it is nice to make an impression sometimes.

It is true, I do have a chip, and it is on the blink, and they did have problems fitting it. They had to staple it to a monkey´s brain and pop that inside my head.

[stavrosg]

This is a typical case of a pet peever turned obsession, I think.

[timbo]

This is a typical case of a pet peever turned obsession, I think.

I know it looks that way, but it´s not that, I promise. I never really cared if he is or not. I like Tigh, but he is not really a favourite. I just can´t shake off the damn idea. In fact, apart from Tigh not being one, I dont think I have given more than one or two half hearted opinions on who the final five are. It has never seemed that important to me. The Tigh thing has just been a bit of fun. The reason I joined the forum was to talk about what the show has to say about the bigger questions - God, identity, love etc.

When a writer writes a novel, he finishes it and then offers it up to be read. When a writer or writers writes a series for TV, it seems that half way through writing, peoples reactions can and do affect the trajectory of the story. For me, from the beginning, the show was heading toward being something really special, but it has been hijacked to an extent by the final cylon hysteria. I dont know if this was intended or came as a surprise to the powers that be. Either way, it worries me a little that some of the original ideas may have been sacrificed to milk this FF stuff. I hope I am wrong.

[Xenon242]

You know, that was quite possibly the weirdest thing to read first thing in the morning before coffee ...

[timbo]

You know, that was quite possibly the weirdest thing to read first thing in the morning before coffee ...

What was?

[genji2000]

I know it looks that way, but it´s not that, I promise. I never really cared if he is or not. I like Tigh, but he is not really a favourite. I just can´t shake off the damn idea. In fact, apart from Tigh not being one, I dont think I have given more than one or two half hearted opinions on who the final five are. It has never seemed that important to me. The Tigh thing has just been a bit of fun. The reason I joined the forum was to talk about what the show has to say about the bigger questions - God, identity, love etc.

F**k that. Who's the Final Cylon?

When a writer writes a novel, he finishes it and then offers it up to be read. When a writer or writers writes a series for TV, it seems that half way through writing, peoples reactions can and do affect the trajectory of the story. For me, from the beginning, the show was heading toward being something really special, but it has been hijacked to an extent by the final cylon hysteria. I dont know if this was intended or came as a surprise to the powers that be. Either way, it worries me a little that some of the original ideas may have been sacrificed to milk this FF stuff. I hope I am wrong.

No I think the Final Cylon thing is important to the Writers, because it's mostly swamping discussion about the important themes of the show and the way the story will end, which I think is a good thing (Roslin's italics). Season 4.5 will blow us away because we've been so focussed on the Final Cylon that when that turns out be, say, the twelfth most amazing thing that happens we'll all just be stunned. Even the identity of the Final Cylon (which is what everyone's banging on about) per se is of much less importance than his or her purpose. I think they were right not to reveal the identity before the midseason break because that discussion needs to deflect attention from what they're going to do with or to everyone else.

[Xenon242]

What was?

Your original post.

[Jason1975]

I know it looks that way, but it´s not that, I promise. I never really cared if he is or not. I like Tigh, but he is not really a favourite. I just can´t shake off the damn idea. In fact, apart from Tigh not being one, I dont think I have given more than one or two half hearted opinions on who the final five are. It has never seemed that important to me. The Tigh thing has just been a bit of fun. The reason I joined the forum was to talk about what the show has to say about the bigger questions - God, identity, love etc.

When a writer writes a novel, he finishes it and then offers it up to be read. When a writer or writers writes a series for TV, it seems that half way through writing, peoples reactions can and do affect the trajectory of the story. For me, from the beginning, the show was heading toward being something really special, but it has been hijacked to an extent by the final cylon hysteria. I dont know if this was intended or came as a surprise to the powers that be. Either way, it worries me a little that some of the original ideas may have been sacrificed to milk this FF stuff. I hope I am wrong.

Actually, I do not think that the would sacrifice any of the original ideas for the FF stuff. I totally believe that the FF stuff is a diversion. That there is more to this story than any of us know. At the end of the show, We will not even care who the FF are. However, that said I am having fun right now talking about the FF especially after D'Anna remarks . However, That enthusiasm will not last unless the give us more to think about before 4.5 begins.

[Starstruck]

I think the identity of the fifth is wrapped up with all the big questions in the show, and that is why it's important. That's also why I don't think the fifth is a lesser character like Seelix or even Dualla. I think it has to be one of the biggies. Having it be Boomer would be huge, which is the reason I'm not discounting the theory completely, although I think it has big holes.

Timbo, I know I feel a tad suicidal when I contemplate how long we have to wait to see the rest of the show, but please, don't go into the light. ;)

[genji2000]

I'm not discounting the theory completely, although I think it has big holes.

I guess it must have. We just haven't found any yet. :detective:

[timbo]

F**k that. Who's the Final Cylon?
Season 4.5 will blow us away because we've been so focussed on the Final Cylon that when that turns out be, say, the twelfth most amazing thing that happens we'll all just be stunned.

Yeah, that is what I hope, and it is reassuring that a few people have said that in spite of the FF frenzy, they still expect the real revelations to come after we know who the last one is. It is quite a new experience when I stop and realise that I actually care about what happens in a TV show. I do think though that we need some good fresh angles on the forum.

Starstruck - dont worry it isn´t a train, it´s just a couple of fireflies.

[genji2000]

Yeah, that is what I hope, and it is reassuring that a few people have said that in spite of the FF frenzy, they still expect the real revelations to come after we know who the last one is. It is quite a new experience when I stop and realise that I actually care about what happens in a TV show. I do think though that we need some good fresh angles on the forum.

Starstruck - dont worry it isn´t a train, it´s just a couple of fireflies.

BANG!

Hmmm... maybe. What we don't want is for everyone to have sussed out or guessed all the surprises and spoil the second half for everyone else. The Final Cylon's there if you want to join in. If not, don't. I'm going to keep it spinning for a while if I can. Until I get bored at least. Which may be very soon. I'm worried about what the mid season break will do to the forum. I wasn't around during the last one.

[empathy44]

I'm big on the idea that the Final Four are "different" and I wonder--not if there was a chip implanted--if they are humans overwritten with another personality or a set of imperatives. After all, these are Cylons that age!

The ability to beam consciousness is central to the Cylon experience.

Each of the four heard music as if it was being beamed to them. Tigh thought it was coming from the ship and I think it was--as a waylay station.

The Final Five exist in a place between life and death for the Cylons is an important clue. Going to the Temple of the Five results in the ability to see and identify them--because their identity is revealed as a vision.

Head Baltar/Six have a lot of info that shows they are not just projections of their human/Cylon host. It's as if they are manifestations beamed into the host's head.

[timbo]

Empathy, I am not sure I like your avatar, but I like the "beaming" thing. I think there is something in it. I like the word too, it is a happy, woody word. Use it as often as you can.

[Bluce_Ree]

I don't like the chip idea thing. Tigh as a cylon is far better than Tigh with a crazy chip. Although it'd be superbly ace if Tori wasn't a cylon as it'd properly scupper the egotistical cow. Still she has to be a cylon though, as she was able to knock Cally clean out with a backhanded slap. Not bad for a pencil pusher.

I love the internal conflict of Tigh. He's shown himself to be the best human and the best cylon and compared to fatboy Tyrol, Kara's cuckold of a husband and Tori he's the best of the final five and will continue to be unless the fifth cylon happens to be Tigh Mk 2.

I hope Caprica is just about Tigh as a cylon toddler going round punching out the other kids whilst getting into Red Hand Gang style scrapes (and drinking whiskey).

[caprica_six]

They've never done the chip thing, why would they start now is now question to you timbo.
They are ending the show, there not gonna entertain that idea they have way too much other story. It just doesn't fit

I really hate how ppl still don't believe that they are the Final Five

[timbo]

I like the chip idea thing. Tigh is far better with a crazy chip.
I love Tigh. He's shown himself to be the best human.
I hope Caprica is just about Tigh drinking whiskey.

Thanks dude, appreciate it.

[timbo]

They've never done the chip thing, why would they start now is now question to you timbo.

I really hate how ppl still don't believe that they are the Final Five

To answer your question, dont ask me, ask Adama, he is now the official spokesperson for the idea.

Also, why would you hate ppl not believing something?

Plus, what´s the difference between putting a hidden microphone on the bridge of Galactica, and putting a chip in someone´s head. It is exactly the sort of thing I would expect the cylons to do. Technology is their thing. To me, it doesnt fit that they are cylons.

Anyway, I promised to shut up, so I will.

[genji2000]

Blucey_bonus:

I like the chip idea thing. Tigh is far better with a crazy chip.
I love Tigh. He's shown himself to be the best human.
I hope Caprica is just about Tigh drinking whiskey.

Thanks dude, appreciate it.

Classic.

To answer your question, dont ask me, ask Adama, he is now the official spokesperson for the idea.

Classic.

Also, why would you hate ppl not believing something?

Plus, what´s the difference between putting a hidden microphone on the bridge of Galactica, and putting a chip in someone´s head. It is exactly the sort of thing I would expect the cylons to do. Technology is their thing. To me, it doesnt fit that they are cylons.

Anyway, I promised to shut up, so I will.

No don't do that.

[LSOP]

I have now seen the error of my ways. There is no way that the chip theory can be possible. I now believe that Tigh was a cylon from the start. Sorry I ever brought it up.

Thanks dude, appreciate it.:smilewink:

[timbo]

Thanks dude, appreciate it.:smilewink:

LSOP, I have met my match. I bow to you.

You have put a smile on my face just before bedtime. Thanks.

[LSOP]

LSOP, I have met my match. I bow to you.

You have put a smile on my face just before bedtime. Thanks.


Yours was the best. I had never seen that done before! :lol:

[timbo]

Yours was the best. I had never seen that done before! :lol:

Thanks dude. We should keep quiet now, not many seemed to notice. It may be a useful tool in the future.

[genji2000]

I can't work out where LSOP's came from.

[timbo]

I can't work out where LSOP's came from.

He did it letter by letter from a long post, I imagine. Mums the word or the three of us are gonna be sitting outside the principal´s office.

Off topic, sorry.... Did you see it all, pens and everything - what a night. I live overlooking the town square, Plaza España where everyone gathers for the big celebrations. If we win the semi, and then the final, we´ll have mayhem.

[genji2000]

He did it letter by letter from a long post, I imagine. Mums the word.

Or he just made the frakker up. I think we should be told. He's right; yours was better, as much for the comment as for the technique. Letter-by-letter is way too anal, LSOP.

Yes I watched. Made up for Sat's disappointment.

[LSOP]

Or he just made the frakker up. I think we should be told. He's right; yours was better, as much for the comment as for the technique. Letter-by-letter is way too anal, LSOP.

:lol: I would have never done it that way from scratch. I was just taking timbo's joke and going over-the-top sending it back to him.

(It doesn't have to be a letter-by-letter thing, you just type it... here's one for you, genji :thumbsup:)

I think Timbo should start a separate thread, if he wants to talk sports, unless it's pyramid, and I aint talkin' the card game.

I agree 100%

(and I won't do this technique at all anymore, except in special warranted circumstances where I think I can sneak past the principal's door)

[genji2000]

Can't work that out either. What is the source?