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Starstruck
June 15th, 2008, 10:28 AM
So, the first time I watched the episode I was looking at the ruins and barely noticed the people. This time I really watched the people, and I thought their stances and reactions to one another were interesting.
Adama and Roslin were together, looking grim, no surprise there. D'anna walked up next to them, looking horrified. I saw in her face that she was thinking "this is what humans do." Of course, we don't know for sure the humans did this to themselves yet.
Then we see Anders standing alone. Tory goes up to him to offer him her arm, but he shakes her away.
Lee is walking alone but in the direction of Kara.
Athena and Helo are together.
Baltar is alone, looking absolutely crest-fallen. Caprica Six (I think?) walks behind him, past him, and goes to comfort Tigh.
Leoben is standing alone, but very near Kara. Kara is alone and looks, perhaps, the most upset of all of them.
I really love this show's attention to detail and character, even as it is showing us utter destruction with almost no dialogue. The only thing that is said is Roslin saying "Earth."
genji2000
June 15th, 2008, 10:32 AM
So, the first time I watch the episode I was looking at the ruins and barely noticed the people. This time I really watched the people, and I thought their stances and reactions to one another were interesting.
Adama and Roslin were together, looking grim, no surprise there. D'anna walked up next to them, looking horrified. I saw in her face that she was thinking "this is what humans do."
In comparison with the attack on the twelve colonies? I don't think that's what she was thinking. More like "all this way for this?".
Of course, we dont' know for sure the humans did this to themselves yet.
Then we see Anders standing alone. Tory goes up to him to offer him her arm, but he shakes her away.
Lee is walking alone but in the direction of Kara.
Athena and Helo are together.
Baltar is alone, looking absolutely crest-fallen. Caprica Six (I think?) walks behind him, past him, and goes to comfort Tigh.
Leoben is standing alone, but very near Kara. Kara is alone and looks, perhaps, the most upset of all of them.
I really love this show's attention to detail and character, even as it is showing us utter destruction with almost no dialogue. The only thing that is said is Roslin saying "Earth."
Yes it was a fantastically executed scene. It's certainly Caprica Six who goes to Tigh.
Do you mean "Last Scene of Revelations"?
Jason1975
June 15th, 2008, 10:44 AM
So, the first time I watched the episode I was looking at the ruins and barely noticed the people. This time I really watched the people, and I thought their stances and reactions to one another were interesting.
Adama and Roslin were together, looking grim, no surprise there. D'anna walked up next to them, looking horrified. I saw in her face that she was thinking "this is what humans do." Of course, we don't know for sure the humans did this to themselves yet.
Then we see Anders standing alone. Tory goes up to him to offer him her arm, but he shakes her away.
Lee is walking alone but in the direction of Kara.
Athena and Helo are together.
Baltar is alone, looking absolutely crest-fallen. Caprica Six (I think?) walks behind him, past him, and goes to comfort Tigh.
Leoben is standing alone, but very near Kara. Kara is alone and looks, perhaps, the most upset of all of them.
I really love this show's attention to detail and character, even as it is showing us utter destruction with almost no dialogue. The only thing that is said is Roslin saying "Earth."
So what do you think of Dualla's reaction.
genji2000
June 15th, 2008, 10:50 AM
So what do you think of Dualla's reaction.
Watching Lee walking in Kara's direction?
Jeff O'Connor
June 15th, 2008, 07:21 PM
It was possibly my favorite scene in the entire episode. During the first watch, the initial thinking for me was 'when I watch this again, I'm going to be even more meticulous in assessing the different reactions' and so I was, and when it's back on later tonight, ditto.
The attention to detail here was an all-time high for a series which has prided itself on such and has sometimes failed horrendously (Zarek's 'five years' statement in 4.8 is ringing in my ears for a recent example) but in the grand scheme of things is immaculate.
Starstruck
June 15th, 2008, 09:23 PM
So what do you think of Dualla's reaction.
I didn't think much of her reaction, but I thought it was interesting that she was there. The writers obviously consider her important enough to be in that scene. I forgot to mention that, so thanks for bringing it up.
Starstruck
June 15th, 2008, 09:26 PM
It was possibly my favorite scene in the entire episode. During the first watch, the initial thinking for me was 'when I watch this again, I'm going to be even more meticulous in assessing the different reactions' and so I was, and when it's back on later tonight, ditto.
The attention to detail here was an all-time high for a series which has prided itself on such and has sometimes failed horrendously (Zarek's 'five years' statement in 4.8 is ringing in my ears for a recent example) but in the grand scheme of things is immaculate.
I agree. I thought it was the best scene of the episode, and possibly of the season. I'm glad. This gives me hope for their artistry in ending the whole thing.
leon
June 15th, 2008, 09:40 PM
I'm not sure I can accurately predict how I would react in that situation, I think it would be either catatonic, nausea, sobbing and bawling in tears, hysterical laughter, or some combination of the above.
james968
June 15th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Someone freaking out of just crying sobbbing crying would have been good. Or some random (extra) crewmember just doing a silent pantomime of the Last scene from Planet of the Apes. (No statue needed).
Asiriya
June 16th, 2008, 03:29 PM
It was a great scene, I too have watched it again several times, watching the characters reactions is really interesting. I liked how Anders has abandoned Tory, do you think it's significant Baltar is alone (also, where the hell is head six? Even when Baltar was dying; I haven't noticed anyone else mention her, but she's been, now I think about it, suspiciously absent); Galen's reaction made it for me, the laughing in disbelief and uncaring-ness. I loved how he was portrayed this episode.
genji2000
June 16th, 2008, 03:36 PM
It was a great scene, I too have watched it again several times, watching the characters reactions is really interesting. I liked how Anders has abandoned Tory,
He abandoned her as soon as they found out they were Cylons at the nebula. He said, "stay away from me."
do you think it's significant Baltar is alone (also, where the hell is head six?
In his head? Maybe that's why he's distant.
Even when Baltar was dying; I haven't noticed anyone else mention her, but she's been, now I think about it, suspiciously absent); Galen's reaction made it for me, the laughing in disbelief and uncaring-ness. I loved how he was portrayed this episode.
Yes Aaron did a great job in this episode. His reaction when the marines came in and told Kara he and Anders were Cylons, "like the XO" was priceless.
wpgunit
June 16th, 2008, 04:08 PM
just going to throw this out there. on Friday my dish went down and I had to break into my neighbor's house just to watch BSG.
I laughed, my old man was the driving force behind the break in.
Jeff O'Connor
June 16th, 2008, 04:14 PM
Caprica-Six is definitely going to be back, and there will be 'some explanation as to what she is', at that, in accordance with an April interview with Tricia Helfer over at IGN. The way things were worded at the time, Patriot Resource has her pegged as making a mainstay return to the camera-covered side of the story within the next couple of episodes, too. (Which is good timing, since Baltar is undoubtedly going to be a tad catatonic despite his followers as evidenced by the final sequence.)
Tricia herself made mention in said interview that she was conspicuously absent for a few episodes, as she has been to less glaring extents in the past. It gave me a sense of complete understanding when she explained that it seemed Gaius simply hasn't needed her nearly as much of late as he's come into his own. Clearly, this is what she was pushing for from square one -- to take the dedicated scientist and turn him into this current incarnation, for whatever destiny awaits him.
That said, she also threw out there that she's far less the 'sexual manipulator' she once was and is very much an 'angel sent by God', so it's all really coming together as a great many of us expected. She doesn't really need to be a sexual manipulator anymore; he's gotten to the point where she need only continue guiding him spiritually en route to wherever it is he's going.
Neakal
June 16th, 2008, 06:27 PM
D'Anna's reaction to me was more like "Please tell me this is not it. It's a trick! Its...".
Leoben's reaction struck me as the most genuine for some reason. Even in the worst of situations (Flesh and Bone, The Road Less Traveled) Leoben was always confident, always had a plan. Always did what he did best (religious mindfrak with others + believing that everything fits the pattern of the grand scheme). Yet in that scene he, like all the others, seemed lost. For the first time he did not know what to do. Maybe because of this, for the first time I saw Leoben as fully and completely human.
Not sure what to think about others. Caprica-Six going to Tigh instead of Baltar following her release months later seemed interesting. They fully broke up. Kinda sad IMO. I always hoped those two would end up together.
I'm glad there was no music, speech, freaking out people and familiar landmarks. I think they all would have taken the impact away.
Martyr of the Cause
June 17th, 2008, 12:54 PM
The reactions in this scene were awesome. I watched them as close as I could on my 2nd and 3rd viewings. You've got most of them down here, but these are the ones I can recall that you missed (with my own analysis):
Tyrol: smiles, smirks to himself, and shakes his head, as if to say "it figures". He seems unsurprised that Earth is destroyed, but not like he knew this was what was going to happen.
Dualla: From my view, she seems completely unemotional about this. In many ways, she was mighty unemotional throughout all of Revelations, except to be compassionate to help Gaeta (who should get himself a fake leg and quit feeling bad for himself).
I thought Leoben also had a look of disappointment but not one of surprise. Perhaps he realized the Cycle of Time mystery and felt lousy that he couldn't see it all until it was too late?
Another thing I noticed (or thought I saw) was that at the very end there was a couple who walked forward in the ruins. I thought it was Helo and Athena, but I'm not sure. It felt like they were still ready to move forward with hope despite the setback of finding their salvation destroyed before they arrived.
genji2000
June 17th, 2008, 01:02 PM
Another thing I noticed (or thought I saw) was that at the very end there was a couple who walked forward in the ruins. I thought it was Helo and Athena, but I'm not sure. It felt like they were still ready to move forward with hope despite the setback of finding their salvation destroyed before they arrived.
Helo and Athena but they stopped before the camera began the big reveal of 'the city' on the other side of the East River.
OTW
June 18th, 2008, 05:36 PM
This scene is here on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c6Leg7MGQE
restlessmarlena
June 24th, 2008, 05:18 PM
I thought the final scene said it all. I to found it interesting that Caprica six walked to Tigh. Considering she has been so heavily linked to Baltar. I loved all the somber faces and looks of hopelessness, that was needed more then focusing on the destruction around them. I think it had the perfect "human" factor too it.
buerger23
June 24th, 2008, 08:07 PM
So what do you think of Dualla's reaction.
Could this just be another way of showing the rift between her and Lee. Or could it have something to do with the F5 (sorry I had to bring it up).
Jason1975
June 24th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Could this just be another way of showing the rift between her and Lee. Or could it have something to do with the F5 (sorry I had to bring it up).
I do not think this showing the rift between Lee and Dee.I think her reaction is more what they found on the surface. It could be something with F5 because it seemed weird that she is in on the surface and Gaeta is not. It goes well with my last cylon theory. :D However, we do not know.
stavrosg
June 25th, 2008, 06:23 AM
I thought the final scene said it all. I to found it interesting that Caprica six walked to Tigh. Considering she has been so heavily linked to Baltar.
After Baltar's release, he could go to see her (I presume, at least) but there was no indication whatsoever of this happening, or trying to do it at the very least. Meanwhile, she got frequent visits from Tigh, whose nature could surely sense. No wonder she got attached to him instead.
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