End of the series

[Vizruy]

Hello everyone! I recently joined the forum after reading some of the threads.
My knowledge of BSG can be described as basic: I only know the main characters first names, and don't know much about the lesser known ones.
I just finished reading 'The Cylons' Secret' and found it very entertaining and to some extent shocking. Because of this, I have started wondering about the final episodes of BSG,.

This is all speculation:

As we all know, there are five unrevealed cylons. I understand that we are all speculating about the indentities of the remaining clones, however, I would like to ask your opinions about certain questions that I have.
. Are we expecting all the cylons to be clones?
. Does the person/cylon who/that controls ship qualify as one of the twelve models?
. It seems that these cylons are controlled by a central unit. Do you believe that there will be a cylon creator? an entity that is perhaps pup petering the cylon will in order to achieve a destiny written in their holy scriptures? or is this collective entity just the result of their combined network?

. It seems kind of odd to me that the cylons have a greater knowledge of events occurring throughout the series (evident in No. Six). What if the 13th colony has previously been visited by the cylons (during their disappearance) and have been humanized (in the physical sense) as a race? Thus, making them look human?

. Wouldn't it interesting if the People in Earth had created the entire twelve models and use them as a way to make the prophecies a reality?

This is probably a far stretched, but I would be interesting if the 13th Colony was in the end responsible for the genocide of the other remaining 12 colonies? A genocide devised as a way to bring the scriptures to live, because of their religious fanaticism.

What do you guys think?
(Sorry if it does not make sense, I'm not a native English speaker).

[JDS]

First of all, we found out the identities of four of the Final Five Cylons in the last episode of Season 3. Plus the fifth was kinda suggested.

The Cylon controlling the base star isn't counted towards as one of the models any more than the Raiders themselves are one of the models.

It's pretty clear that the humanoid Cylons weren't created by people on Earth or anywhere else, but rather evolved (whether purposefully or not) from the Cylons that the Colonials created.

[Spencerian]

Hello everyone! I recently joined the forum after reading some of the threads.
My knowledge of BSG can be described as basic: I only know the main characters first names, and don't know much about the lesser known ones.
I just finished reading 'The Cylons' Secret' and found it very entertaining and to some extent shocking. Because of this, I have started wondering about the final episodes of BSG,.

This is all speculation:

As we all know, there are five unrevealed cylons. I understand that we are all speculating about the indentities of the remaining clones, however, I would like to ask your opinions about certain questions that I have.
. Are we expecting all the cylons to be clones?
. Does the person/cylon who/that controls ship qualify as one of the twelve models?
. It seems that these cylons are controlled by a central unit. Do you believe that there will be a cylon creator? an entity that is perhaps pup petering the cylon will in order to achieve a destiny written in their holy scriptures? or is this collective entity just the result of their combined network?

. It seems kind of odd to me that the cylons have a greater knowledge of events occurring throughout the series (evident in No. Six). What if the 13th colony has previously been visited by the cylons (during their disappearance) and have been humanized (in the physical sense) as a race? Thus, making them look human?

. Wouldn't it interesting if the People in Earth had created the entire twelve models and use them as a way to make the prophecies a reality?

This is probably a far stretched, but I would be interesting if the 13th Colony was in the end responsible for the genocide of the other remaining 12 colonies? A genocide devised as a way to bring the scriptures to live, because of their religious fanaticism.

What do you guys think?
(Sorry if it does not make sense, I'm not a native English speaker).


Welcome to the boards!

It's fun to play with the possibilities! I like the idea of the Cylons being their own creators (in terms of finding Earth...maybe that's the Cylon homeworld, so the Thirteenth Tribe and humanoid Cylons are one and the same). This doesn't support episode events and one special interview with Ron Moore, which confirmed that the humanoid Cylons aren't clones and were never human. The Cylons appear more or less a noncentralized culture (everything, even running a basestar, is done by concensus), so I doubt there is a leader.

Your other thoughts are interesting. I'll be curious on what others think about them!

[Vizruy]

Spencerian (http://www.battlestarforum.com/member.php?u=10), Thanks a lot for the warm welcome and for the information regarding the final four cylons. I hod no idea that they weren't clones.
JDS: I just checked the wiki and read that the writers called the cylons controlling the base stars 'hybrids'. Apparently they aren't counted as one of the twelve but instead as the transition from mechanical to bio-mechanical cylons.
Thank you very much for the additional information provided, that was the main reasion for me joining the forum.
Btw, I found both your comments in the other threads iluminating.

[Spencerian]

You're welcome, V.

Ron Moore called the Hybrids a "model 0", implying that the Hybrids are humanoid, but aren't counted as a "thirteenth" Cylon model. (The Centurions, Raiders and other ships aren't part of the count.) Since the Hybrids are tightly integrated into a basestar (and may lack much of their limbs and stuff and are connected to a lot of tubes) I don't think they can move from their tank.

[alpha5099]

I must admit, I like the idea of Earth being responsible for the genocide. However, it doesn't quite mesh with the Cylons not knowing where Earth is. Of course, there's still a lot we don't know about the Final Five, maybe they're privy to some knowledge about Earth.