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pagad
May 28th, 2008, 07:45 AM
Does anyone know how the Galactica moored itself to Ragnar Anchorage? An umbilical jetty, or what?

Need the info for purposes of fanfiction :)

Shane
May 28th, 2008, 07:52 AM
I think it was a hard-dock. You can tell from the miniseries that they were waiting for pressure to equalize before opening the hatch.

pagad
May 28th, 2008, 07:59 AM
Ah, I see. So Galactica was physically anchored to the station. Cheers :D

What I should have added to the first post:

How did they get the munitions on board? Was it attached via a flightpod or a massive airlock on the main hull or something?

Tomsk
May 28th, 2008, 10:02 AM
they were wheeling at least some of the ammo from ragnar to galactica on man-propelled pallets, one of the shells fell off, exploded and sealed adama in to the base with a cylon. it seems like a really crappy way of filling a mile-long spaceship with bullets to me but everything else happened off screen. If i was designing i'd have the ship with modular ammo storage so that cranes at the anchorage could just pull out an empty magazine and slot in a new one.

Joe Beaudoin Jr.
May 28th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Well, we get the feeling that Ragnar Anchorage is decades old... It's not new by any means but it is still in use, and the fact that it's situated in a place that has an adverse affect on Cylon silica pathways tends to indicate that it dates back to the Cylon war.

genji2000
May 28th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Well, we get the feeling that Ragnar Anchorage is decades old... It's not new by any means but it is still in use, and the fact that it's situated in a place that has an adverse affect on Cylon silica pathways tends to indicate that it dates back to the Cylon war.

How come Ragnar's radiation fields adversely affects Cylon technology (which includes Cylons), but they could send Athena out scouting for the algae planet in an intense radiological storm?

And how come the Cylons could get to the Ragnar Anchorage to rescue Aaron Doral?

Joe Beaudoin Jr.
May 28th, 2008, 02:03 PM
How come Ragnar's radiation fields adversely affects Cylon technology (which includes Cylons), but they could send Athena out scouting for the algae planet in an intense radiological storm?

And how come the Cylons could get to the Ragnar Anchorage to rescue Aaron Doral?

There are different classes of radiation (http://www.anawa.org.au/health/radiation.html) in the known universe: the ones in the starcluster are different than those emitted by a gas giant, which Rangar itself is.

The radiation emanating from Ragnar disrupts the silica pathways of the Cylons. However, the effect is not immediate, since Leoben was there for several hours... if not a day. It's an accumulative effect.

Presumably, the Doral they rescued was able to recover from the effects once they left Ragnar.

mdwturner
May 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM
There are different classes of radiation (http://www.anawa.org.au/health/radiation.html) in the known universe: the ones in the starcluster are different than those emitted by a gas giant, which Rangar itself is.

The radiation emanating from Ragnar disrupts the silica pathways of the Cylons. However, the effect is not immediate, since Leoben was there for several hours... if not a day. It's an accumulative effect.

Presumably, the Doral they rescued was able to recover from the effects once they left Ragnar.

Seems like they already have a perfect Cylon detector. Just go bathe the fleet in radiation emitted by a gas giant ... ? Am I missing something?

Joe Beaudoin Jr.
May 28th, 2008, 02:41 PM
Seems like they already have a perfect Cylon detector. Just go bathe the fleet in radiation emitted by a gas giant ... ? Am I missing something?

It's insinuated that the Colonials don't know exactly what in the radiation adversely affects the silica pathways... and as such is impossible to reproduce, and may be a unique quirk exclusive to Ragnar.

Dzonatas
May 28th, 2008, 03:12 PM
It's insinuated that the Colonials don't know exactly what in the radiation adversely affects the silica pathways... and as such is impossible to reproduce, and may be a unique quirk exclusive to Ragnar.

That's pretty much how I saw it.

The contamination of the one basestar acted like the radiation sickness, also. The writers may have simplified the sickness to be like that of the radiation on Ragner. The question that it brings up is how is the contamination able to follow a cylon download but the radiation is not.

I think the Ragner radiation is meant to be similar to the TOS rust (the young lords) that cylons had to worry about.

Martyr of the Cause
May 28th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Some radiation fraks the up, others don't hurt so much.

Good sci-fi doesn't need techno-jargon. Star Wars takes this philosophy to an extreme, and with some pretty solid results. Unless you get really whacky with it, you really don't need a reason why it works. The radiation of Ragnar just works, and for me that's plenty. I got sick of the intense pseudo-logic babble of Star Trek, and am glad to see little of it in Battlestar. That Cylons are susceptable to certain types and not others was enough for me.

That's part of the fun of it: Cylons have vulnerabilities and weaknesses based on what the story needs :)

The one I've always wondered is how it's so hard to detect the skinjobs when
their spines glow during quality sex and their palms can interface with fiber optic computers. But again, I try not to sweat the fine details, or at least nto let them get in the way of my enjoyment of the show.

pagad
May 28th, 2008, 06:08 PM
It's insinuated that the Colonials don't know exactly what in the radiation adversely affects the silica pathways... and as such is impossible to reproduce, and may be a unique quirk exclusive to Ragnar.

And anyway being bathed in radiation probably isn't healthy in the long run, human or Cylon.

Anyway, thanks guys. The scenario I am writing involves a battlestar (Valkyrie to be exact) docking with the Anchorage and munitions manually shunted over by deck crew. I may just write it without going into detail.

I have another question: one week after the Battle of Ragnar Anchorage, would the debris from dead Vipers, Raiders and civilian ships still be present around the "entrance" or would it have drifted into orbit of the gas giant? Or something else?

The one I've always wondered is how it's so hard to detect the skinjobs when
their spines glow during quality sex and their palms can interface with fiber optic computers. But again, I try not to sweat the fine details, or at least nto let them get in the way of my enjoyment of the show.

The writers have admitted this was a bit of a mistake and it just "looked cool".

I'm happy with the explanation that they glow in the infrared spectrum or something.

barnmaddo
May 28th, 2008, 11:17 PM
1) Trace gasses in the upper atmosphere of the gas giant degraded the debris orbit and caused it to fall further into the gas giant.

2) The debris was not in a geosynchronous orbit and thus the debris field was on the other side of the giant when the next ship arrived.

I'd be a little surprised if the Cylons didn't booby trap the station, destroy it, or are sitting in wait in case any other ships responded to Adama's rendezvous order.

pagad
May 29th, 2008, 03:22 AM
1) Trace gasses in the upper atmosphere of the gas giant degraded the debris orbit and caused it to fall further into the gas giant.

2) The debris was not in a geosynchronous orbit and thus the debris field was on the other side of the giant when the next ship arrived.

Thanks. I'm going with 2) because that way they can still detect the remains, which is quite crucial.

I'd be a little surprised if the Cylons didn't booby trap the station, destroy it, or are sitting in wait in case any other ships responded to Adama's rendezvous order.

It's been a week. It's an acknowledged risk by the commanders, but they're quite desperate, as you can imagine :D I just need to get a plausible scenario going.

Sharon.Valerii
June 7th, 2008, 05:54 AM
they were wheeling at least some of the ammo from ragnar to galactica on man-propelled pallets, one of the shells fell off, exploded and sealed adama in to the base with a cylon. it seems like a really crappy way of filling a mile-long spaceship with bullets to me but everything else happened off screen. If i was designing i'd have the ship with modular ammo storage so that cranes at the anchorage could just pull out an empty magazine and slot in a new one.

On the more modern Battlestars this was far more advanced I believe, but the Galactica was to be decommisioned after more than 40 Years of service.
And somewhere itv is mentioned, that the Computers of that ship worked even on vacuum tubes.
Remembering this it seems also possible, that they made the ammunition loading completely manual, only to prevent any technological systems to go awry by external influences.